Is This Punishment Too Extreme for an 8 Year Old?

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Discussion Overview

This thread centers around a parent's concerns regarding the punishment given to their child by a daycare provider after a field trip incident. Participants share their views on the appropriateness of the punishment, which involved the child sitting on a bench for three hours while peers played, rather than being allowed to stay at school or engage in other activities.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, expresses frustration over the punishment being excessive for an 8-year-old, suggesting it could have been handled differently.
  • Another participant shares their experience, noting that if the child was not a continual behavior problem, the punishment seems harsh.
  • Several users mention that clearer communication about the punishment would have been beneficial for both the parent and child.
  • One participant suggests that the punishment being too far removed from the action may lead to confusion for the child regarding what they did wrong.
  • Another participant agrees that the punishment was cruel, emphasizing that it felt like teasing the child by making them watch others have fun.
  • One participant recounts a similar experience with their own child, expressing solidarity and frustration with the situation.
  • Another participant notes that the daycare should have provided alternative activities during the punishment rather than leaving the child with nothing to do.
  • One participant highlights the need for better communication from the school regarding the punishment options available.
  • Another participant acknowledges that the daycare director admitted the situation could have been handled better.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

General agreement exists among participants that the punishment was excessive and poorly communicated, with many expressing similar frustrations regarding the daycare's approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants share personal experiences and opinions regarding child discipline in educational settings, focusing on the implications of punishment methods for young children.

Who May Find This Useful

Parents and caregivers within the consultant community may find this discussion relevant as it addresses concerns about disciplinary practices in childcare settings.

schel
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I am posting here and am soooooo upset with my childs day care provider "Kids Club" at the school he goes to.
Here is the story....

My son went on a field trip last week and was misbehaving and came home with his 1st note this year from Kids Club, that he was not listening and being defiant when he was supposed to be getting on the bus to go home. So he came home with a written note saying punishment is "loss of next field trip"

I am all for consequences when a child misbehaves and knows it. This however is what happened. Yesterday was the next field trip and I assumed since he had to miss the field trip, he would be staying back at the school "missing the field trip" Instead I find out, that he had to go along on the field trip and sit on a bench doing nothing for 3 hours while the other kids played. A 3 hour time out????? Thats how I see it anyways. Not at all happy with the way this played out. If I would have known that he had to go along, I would have at least sent a book to read or a workbook for him to work on while he was there. They provided nothing, only said they could talk to one another.

I then proceded to ask the pediatrition at work I work with what she thought of this and her comment was "that is extreme for a 8 year old." I then spoke with the director of Kids Club and got no where. So now have gone above her head to the Supervisor. I tell ya, if I get no where there, I WILL go to the head of the district!!!!

I am a little P.O'd if you have not guessed by now. What do you all think?
Schel
 
Schel~

Sounds a bit extreme to me, too. I can see if he is a continual behavior problem to them, but that doesn't seem like that is the case here! Hope you get a resolution!
 
I'm all for punishment for actions too, but it does sound like they could have been a little clearer with the punishment to both you and your child so you knew what to expect. Also, when the punishment is too far removed from the action (like a week) the kid forgets what they did wrong to begin with! They could have found a more suitable punishment, or kept him at the school to do work or something along those lines.
 
I too, think this is extreme. Especially, for a child so young. It is one thing to punish a child with missing out on a special trip, but to dangle the fun in his face is just teasing him.
Did they perhaps make him go because no one was going to be back at the school? Would that have required an extra teacher or aide? I could sort of see their side if that was the case, but if so they should have explained that to you and let you decide if he should go and be teased with fun or stay home with you.
 
I agree with your assessment that it wasn't loss of field trip. That's staying at the school building. Going and having to sit with nothing to do on a bench is ridiculous.
 
Wow Schel..... That is extreme for a 8 yo. I have probs with my son too, but don't ever remember his punishment being like that.Definetly talk to the director. I could understand if they were repeatedly having problems with him, but for it to be his first offense......Good Luck and keep us updated.
 
sillylittlechef said:
I too, think this is extreme. Especially, for a child so young. It is one thing to punish a child with missing out on a special trip, but to dangle the fun in his face is just teasing him.
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I think this was not only extreme, but it was cruel too! I would be highly P.O.'d and I'd let all of them know it! They should have let you know in no uncertain terms what the punishment was and then let YOU decide if you wanted your child to be subjected to it or to keep him home. I'd be livid!
 
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Thank you all for your support and input. I will keep you updated.
Schel
 
OMG! No way would I go for that. I think it would be better for him to stay home than to have a 3 hour time out. That is a bit excessive. Now, is someone watching him while he's there for 3 hours or are they all watching the other kids play and supervising them? I'd be LIVID!
 
OMG! Do you have MY SON'S TWIN!?!?My son is eight. He was punished last year for an incident. No school trip. Except they made me keep him home! I had to take a day off from work, during the school year, mind you, because they didnt have anyone to watch him! I've found my soul-mommy-mate!

Don't sweat it! Keep your chin up and keep fighting. That is absurd and although I'm the most nonconfrontational person you'll ever meet, I've found that the squeaky wheel gets the oil. STAND YOUR GROUND, WOMAN! Don't back down! That is a VERY cruel punishment for an 8 yr old and rules need to be changed!

KEEP ME POSTED!

D
 
SilverCeladon said:
OMG! No way would I go for that. I think it would be better for him to stay home than to have a 3 hour time out. That is a bit excessive. Now, is someone watching him while he's there for 3 hours or are they all watching the other kids play and supervising them? I'd be LIVID!


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There just should have been better communication on the school's part. They should have given you the option of just keeping him home. Even though it would have been "inconvenient" to take the day off and all that, three hours of sitting on a bench watching his peers play is just WRONG.
 
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Well, I finally talked to the "top dog"... He admitted that they should have provided them with an alternate book like activity instead of just having them sit there as if in a time out. I again stressed to him I was still MAD!!! :mad:
and told this guy that being they were punished in an inappropriate way they owed the kids a apology for not providing them with something else to do while they sat in their 3 hour time out!!!

He assured me that this will not happen again.

Still mad, but I'll cool down eventually.
Thanks for all you r support.
Schel
 
schel said:
Well, I finally talked to the "top dog"... He admitted that they should have provided them with an alternate book like activity instead of just having them sit there as if in a time out. I again stressed to him I was still MAD!!! :mad:
and told this guy that being they were punished in an inappropriate way they owed the kids a apology for not providing them with something else to do while they sat in their 3 hour time out!!!

He assured me that this will not happen again.

Still mad, but I'll cool down eventually.
Thanks for all you r support.
Schel

Look at it this way...if you son gets an explanation that what they did wasn't right for them and they actually make changes and it doesn't happen again, you've done your job and your son helped teach them something in all this too. Look at it as a good experience...you helped make a change in your efforts that will help future students. Not all would be strong enough to deal with that or parents willing to step up to have it corrected.
 
That is definately overboard based on the infraction. I'm not much of a believer in time-outs when kids are old enough to be doing something positive like bookwork, helping clean, work projects etc. I'd much rather them help someone than to just sit for that length of time.

I'm glad you made yourself heard and they acknowledged it could have been handled better. Hope things go more smoothly from here out.
 

Frequently Asked Questions

What are some common reasons parents might consider punishment for an 8-year-old too extreme?

Parents may consider punishment too extreme if it involves physical discipline, isolation for long periods, or actions that cause emotional distress. It's important to evaluate whether the punishment is proportional to the behavior and if it teaches a constructive lesson.

How can parents determine if a punishment is appropriate for their child's age?

Parents can assess the appropriateness of a punishment by considering the child's developmental stage, understanding of right and wrong, and the severity of the misbehavior. Age-appropriate consequences should focus on teaching rather than simply inflicting pain or discomfort.

What are some alternative disciplinary methods for an 8-year-old?

Alternative disciplinary methods include time-outs, loss of privileges, natural consequences, and positive reinforcement for good behavior. These methods encourage children to learn from their mistakes without resorting to extreme measures.

How can extreme punishment affect a child's emotional well-being?

Extreme punishment can lead to feelings of fear, resentment, and low self-esteem in children. It may damage the parent-child relationship and hinder the child's ability to learn from their mistakes, ultimately affecting their emotional and social development.

What should parents do if they feel overwhelmed and unsure about discipline?

If parents feel overwhelmed, it's beneficial to seek guidance from child development experts, counselors, or parenting classes. Support groups and resources can provide strategies for effective discipline that align with the child's needs and promote a healthy family dynamic.

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