Disappointing Level 2 Incentive Products | Limited Value for $1250 in Sales

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Discussion Overview

This thread centers around participants' reactions to the Level 2 incentive products offered for achieving $1250 in sales. Many express disappointment regarding the perceived low retail value of the products compared to previous incentives, while others share their excitement about specific items, particularly the cookware protectors.

Discussion Character

  • Opinion-based
  • Anecdotal
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, expresses disappointment that the total retail value of the Level 2 incentive products is only $79, which is below the expected $100.
  • Another participant mentions that the product values used for the incentive are based on retail prices, not sample prices.
  • Several users note that last year's incentive felt more exciting due to the quantity and variety of products received.
  • Some participants share positive views about the cookware protectors, suggesting they will be popular among customers who need to stack cookware.
  • One participant appreciates the opportunity to earn free products, emphasizing gratitude for any items received.
  • Another participant mentions that while they are not disappointed with the products themselves, they feel let down by the quantity offered.
  • Some participants speculate that the reduction in the number of new products introduced may have influenced the scale back on incentives.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ regarding the value and quantity of the incentive products. While some express disappointment, others are excited about specific items, particularly the cookware protectors. No clear consensus emerges on the overall satisfaction with the incentive offerings.

Contextual Notes

Participants share personal experiences and feelings about the incentive products, reflecting a range of opinions based on their sales experiences and expectations.

Who May Find This Useful

Consultants interested in understanding varying perspectives on the Level 2 incentive products and the associated sentiments within the community may find this discussion relevant.

pamperedlinda said:
I could not have said it better myself! :love: :chef: :love: :chef:

When I tell my story at my shows, I always say it because it's so true. I tell them I had thought about getting a 2nd job to help save money and pay off bills but didn't want to work every night and weekend away from my new husband (we just got married last year 4 months before I signed up). Since I was addicted to PC from my bridal shower I thought about giving it a chance since I can work it around my life instead of my life around another job.
 
Paulette - Thank you for explaining your thoughts of how many people just whine today. I really didn't take the original post as whining, but I see how some might.

Anne E - I understand we should go to HO with any issues we have, but these boards should be a place to discuss them first. I don't want anyone to feel they can't post their real feelings here. I didn't mean to attack you, I just felt she was being put down as not being grateful.

I'm sure we could go on all day of what we don't get in other jobs, but she was still comparing to what was before from PC. Trust me after losing my job of 15 years I could go on all day by myself - but you wouldn't want to hear it:)!!

Most days I am very happy with PC, but we all have our days and are entitled to them. Driving home IN THE SNOW from my show last night (60 miles round trip) which only had $50 in sales I was thinking to myself, "Why am I doing this?" When the FedEx man arrives w/my earned products it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy about it again.
 
pampchefrhondab said:
...Most days I am very happy with PC, but we all have our days and are entitled to them. Driving home IN THE SNOW from my show last night (60 miles round trip) which only had $50 in sales I was thinking to myself, "Why am I doing this?" When the FedEx man arrives w/my earned products it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy about it again.

I'm right there with ya Rhonda!!!
 
RaggedyAunt said:
Rhonda, great post, and many thoughtful points. Maybe you should share your thoughts with HO about the sales promotions. I'm being sincere, too. I thought you made some wonderful points, and I agree.

I just about burnt myself out last fall with all I had going on: work, grad school, PC... I hit $5000 in Oct & Nov and $4500 in Dec. I have pretty much done nothing since December 15 (I think I've turned in 3 catalogs shows since then). I have CCC to make and parties to schedule, but I needed a break. And while I will thoroughly enjoy all my free products, and totally appreciate the $158 in PC$ I earned in December, it was hard work, and those items were EARNED! I was able to earn Level 1 of The Choice is Yours, but who knows next year, especially with the recruiting requirement. Like someone posted in a different thread, I always talk about it, but I've never had anyone really serious about it. My recruiter told me she has been with PC for about 6 years and this year is the hardest they've ever pushed recruiting. I loved your point about they need to make sure they're keeping the ones they have, rather than focusing on bringing more in, although that is the nature of the beast. I think you're first-hand knowledge of a long-time consultant may bear a little weight. Will it change things? Who knows, but at least they will have heard our concerns.

Thanks again for the thoughtful post.

Tammy

Thanks Tammy. I will consider writing to HO. I do hate to see long time consultants leave the company. My old director was a GREAT sales person. She earned a trip for many years in row.

I just know level 1 or 2 may be easy for some consultants, but for others it is a lot of work. Many consultants are part-time like you and me and it takes all we have to get to one of these levels. When it is less then they received in the past there is sure to be a little dissapointment.

There are some things I appreciate the company doing like 60% off two items in February for a host. That will help us get bookings and give us a strong start on the year:)!

One other thing I did think about since my post is the sell-a-thon was in Nov. and not Dec. I do think this probably helped more consultants get to level 1 or 2. Dec. is always a bad month for me, although I would have still reached level 2.

Thanks again,
 
sailortena said:
The "cookware protectors" seem like a real waste; I don't think they will sell.

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I can't wait to buy extra protectors actually. We are forced to stack cookware and I hate the thought that my beautiful cookware is getting scratched up. I think they will sell really well... for stoneware users too. From the catalog picture, they look really well made, and they stacked a casserole pot into a skillet, with another piece too (lots of saved space).

I'm not thrilled with alot of our products, but that is one I think will sell in quanities of at least 2 if you bring them (so light, of course you'll bring them) and you paint the picture of protecting their amazing cookware. There's an extra $10-20 per order ~ they'll HAVE-to buy something else because they are not a FUN product! :)

I have to say that catalog does a nice job of putting life back into the outdoor stuff - I actually likes my plates more now that I'm using them - instead of paper plates. Those spikes can be used at the beach ~ no one likes a sandy water bottle! So I am psyched about those - and we can market them to guys wanting to be knock-your-socks-off romantic! How awesome would a candle-lit outdoor picnic or oceanside date be????

We know that EVERYONE wanted our 10-inch skillets ~ so I'm really excited to have that in open stock.

We all know the most exciting items will appear at national, in time for the fall...
 
its_me_susan said:
I can't wait to buy extra protectors actually. We are forced to stack cookware and I hate the thought that my beautiful cookware is getting scratched up. I think they will sell really well... for stoneware users too. From the catalog picture, they look really well made, and they stacked a casserole pot into a skillet, with another piece too (lots of saved space).

I'm not thrilled with alot of our products, but that is one I think will sell in quanities of at least 2 if you bring them (so light, of course you'll bring them) and you paint the picture of protecting their amazing cookware. There's an extra $10-20 per order ~ they'll HAVE-to buy something else because they are not a FUN product! :)

I have to say that catalog does a nice job of putting life back into the outdoor stuff - I actually likes my plates more now that I'm using them - instead of paper plates. Those spikes can be used at the beach ~ no one likes a sandy water bottle! So I am psyched about those - and we can market them to guys wanting to be knock-your-socks-off romantic! How awesome would a candle-lit outdoor picnic or oceanside date be????

We know that EVERYONE wanted our 10-inch skillets ~ so I'm really excited to have that in open stock.

We all know the most exciting items will appear at national, in time for the fall...

I've already had 2 people tell me they want that as soon as they can order it!:thumbup:
 
OK gotta say something here...I am a part-timer with PC. With the way the incentives are going it is making it much more of a chore to keep up with those new levels. And I can not afford to leave my full time. (I make good money and good medical ins. is attached to that.) But I am so loosing interest in PC as a part time. If I have to work harder to get less, well, It won't be fun any more. And once it becomes a job for me, forget it.
 
pampered1224 said:
I am a part-timer with PC. With the way the incentives are going it is making it much more of a chore to keep up with those new levels. And I can not afford to leave my full time. (I make good money and good medical ins. is attached to that.) But I am so loosing interest in PC as a part time. If I have to work harder to get less, well, It won't be fun any more. And once it becomes a job for me, forget it.


I'm sorry you feel that way John, but eveyone who isn't happy really should send there feeling to HO. They really need to know how you feel, they can't fix it if they don't know. If enough people do then they might change how they do things
 
pampered1224 said:
I am a part-timer with PC. With the way the incentives are going it is making it much more of a chore to keep up with those new levels. And I can not afford to leave my full time. (I make good money and good medical ins. is attached to that.) But I am so loosing interest in PC as a part time. If I have to work harder to get less, well, It won't be fun any more. And once it becomes a job for me, forget it.

John,
I totally understand where you are comming from and you put it very well. I hope you do write HO and tell them exactly what you said here. They need to know how we are feeling. I plan to write as well, as I also feel like they are making it less apealing to part timers and hobbists. Maybee that's what they have in mind. Maybee the company wants only seroius full time consultants. I think we all know that it would be bad for direct sales and bad for PC to go in that direction. At least that is my opinion.
 

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