Disappointing Level 2 Incentive Products | Limited Value for $1250 in Sales

[Cindycooks]

Without actually seeing and touching the products - the things that I am most excited about personally are the new Dots Mugs and Salad Plates....and the new Spice Rubs! I love all Greek Food, and also Moroccan, and can always use a good Tex/Mex rub for so many different things....

AMEN! I am so excited over that little bottle Greek & Moroccan rub I can't stand it!

 

[pampchefrhondab]

I still don't understand why it is assumed people are not happy w/their free products. It was just stated she is dissapointed w/the total amount (being less then in the past). How does that suggest she is not happy for getting free products?

 

[sailortena]

Exactly. I did not say I am not glad to get the "free" stuff. I was just saying that compared to last year, our "bonus" is less. We also had to sell $250 more to get less product value. And it also irks me when people say "oh just be glad you are getting anything free at all, they don't have to do that ... be thankful ... yadda yadda" If sales companies didn't have promotions like this for their sales people, then they wouldn't have people to sell things or have customers want to buy it since they can't see it in person.I just don't like having to work harder and see less compared to past seasons it was the opposite.

 

[chefann]

I used the chipotle rub to make dinner last night - YUM!!

 

[dannyzmom]

Exactly. I did not say I am not glad to get the "free" stuff. I was just saying that compared to last year, our "bonus" is less. We also had to sell $250 more to get less product value.

And it also irks me when people say "oh just be glad you are getting anything free at all, they don't have to do that ... be thankful ... yadda yadda" If sales companies didn't have promotions like this for their sales people, then they wouldn't have people to sell things or have customers want to buy it since they can't see it in person.

I just don't like having to work harder and see less compared to past seasons it was the opposite.

All I am saying is don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

 

[pamperedlinda]

I used the chipotle rub to make dinner last night - YUM!!

details please

 

[Intrepid_Chef]

Free product shows up on your 1099 as INCOME????????????

GASP!

Anyway ... there are some things I don't get, and some things I won't get until I SEE them. I stack my stuff all the time but most of it is not PC, it's 30 years old, so I don't get the protectors either.

But I feel your pain ... if Level 2 was $250 lower, it may have been attainable in my 1st month ... almost hit $1,,000 without trying hard ... and I am not impressed with the green bar board, and I think the medium scraper would be more useful than the mega one. But such is life. If it's for FREE ... it's for ME.

 

[baychef]

Sorry to hear about the disappointment. When ever I have been disappointed in what level I have earned, then it's time kick my business in high gear. The next sell-a-thon is in July so start booking and planning.

You may be working all you can for the level that you are able to earn. I wish I could earn the $6,000 Level but I realize that in the fall not only is my PC business in full swing, but my team is in need of support, my full time job is in full swing and this fall I was taking time from both to bring my Dad to cancer tratments. So earning the $3000 level was truly a gift. In other words, even though I am working my tail off, I do what I can do. What they give me is what they give me.

Maybe your disappointment would be better taken up with HO? Each year is different and all businesses are having to tighten up due to skyrocketing gas prices and health care costs.

I understand that you feel you have worked hard to earn the level you have and are grateful for the free items, but disappointed that these items are all you get compaired to last year. Perhaps if you recruited this month the $50.00 from Best Buy would ease the disappointment? I know I am going to try to earn some of that!

 

[wadesgirl]

Okay, the original poster wasn't disappointed in the free stuff, she just didn't think it added up to what PC said it was going to be. Then Ann pointed out that she was forgetting the "Hold Two Shows..." items. That put it above the amount PC said it was going to be.

 

[baychef]

Free product shows up on your 1099 as INCOME????????????

GASP!

If it's for FREE ... it's for ME.

If you bring it to a party, if you show it off to get business or if you talk about it at parties or to better your business then you can write it off! All of my "extra income" falls into this catagory.

And with the attitude of "If it's for FREE...it's for ME" you will do well in this business!!

 

[pamperedlinda]

.......the green bar board,.......

I love the colorful barboards! I'm forever having to keep an eye on my pink one so that it doesn't sprout legs and leave me!

 

[climbercanoe3]

The green will catch people's attention. Then while they are looking at it they will notice it is a good quality board. Then we can tell them it comes in green and white so they can choose.

 

[Bren706]

I think it is WONDERFUL that our company offers us the opportunity to earn ANYTHING for free. I am grateful for anything they give us!

Just started reading this post, and got as far as Carol's, and had to chime in that I totally agree!!!!!

 

[pampchefrhondab]

It really amazes me how someone is not able to speak their mind on this board w/o the "happy go lucky" people attacking her. She already stated she is grateful for the items she is getting, just disapointed it's not as much as in the past. I don't see what is wrong with that (Someone had to tell her to take it up with HO). These boards should be for everyone to voice their opinion.

I've said before I love the PC and if I won the lottery this is the only job I wouldn't give up. That doesn't mean I have to agree w/everything they do. Sure they give us sales incentives, every sales job has them. This is considered income. Income which has gone down based on the sales having to be higher and the amount being less. I would not consider my sales incentives as a GIFT. A gift is something you get w/o having to do something for it.

Same with the trips. Sales have to be higher. Someone already mentioned level one used to be $15,000 in sales. Sure prices are higher per item which in theory should make our sales higher, but not to the tune they raised the incentive.

Trust me I'm very thankful I reached level 2 and I will be thrilled when the FedEx guy comes. The sales incentives don't make we work my job harder, I try to be consistent year round, but they are nice when I reach them.

I do personally think the harder they make the sales incentives to reach the more consultants they will have not staying with the business. My old director was one of them. She always kept telling me how much better the company used to be and how the trips were easier to obtain. She has since left the company. She was with PC for over 10 years.

My opinion can only be that it is continuing the trend of making it harder, but yet they are pushing to get more consultants. It would be good to keep the consultants they have.

I still think PC is the best company for direct sales (even though I haven't sold anything else). I love the new shows, recipes, products. It is always so much fun. The excitement is always there. I love showing the products to others and seeing my hosts excitement when they reach a high level. It's just fun! I've also learned so much more then I ever thought I would. The training is the best! I like that my kids actually get to see me work and reach goals. I think this will help them in the future. I have recieved many gifts from this business - most that are not products. I thank God for leading me to the PC. It has really helped me through the transition of losing a job I had for 15 years and given me many more skills for my future.

 

[vtodd71]

....but nothing is WOWing me yet - every season I find a few OMG products that I can be crazy about and sell - so far nothing this season...

I have to agree with this statement. I was actually very disappointed with the new spring products. There wasn't much to get excited about.

There were only a handful of items I would want myself. The pinch bowls?!? Don't we already have those and they are called "Prep Bowls". I honestly see a lot of the new spring items in the discontinued list in the near future.

 

[vtodd71]

It really amazes me how someone is not able to speak their mind on this board w/o the "happy go lucky" people attacking her.

I guess they aren't so "happy go lucky" after all.

I agree that these incentives aren't "gifts" since we are actually doing something to get them. I like the different promotions and even as a somewhat new consultant have received many FREE products so far. Then again I've "earned" these "FREE" products.

 

[slj1229]

ok, stupid question, how do I know what level I am at?

 

[wadesgirl]

What were your sales held and submitted in November (needed to be submitted by Dec 5th)? Then the levels go by 2 shows submitted, $1500 submiteed, $3000 submitted and $6000 submitted.

 

[RaggedyAunt]

Rhonda, great post, and many thoughtful points. Maybe you should share your thoughts with HO about the sales promotions. I'm being sincere, too. I thought you made some wonderful points, and I agree.

I just about burnt myself out last fall with all I had going on: work, grad school, PC... I hit $5000 in Oct & Nov and $4500 in Dec. I have pretty much done nothing since December 15 (I think I've turned in 3 catalogs shows since then). I have CCC to make and parties to schedule, but I needed a break. And while I will thoroughly enjoy all my free products, and totally appreciate the $158 in PC$ I earned in December, it was hard work, and those items were EARNED! I was able to earn Level 1 of The Choice is Yours, but who knows next year, especially with the recruiting requirement. Like someone posted in a different thread, I always talk about it, but I've never had anyone really serious about it. My recruiter told me she has been with PC for about 6 years and this year is the hardest they've ever pushed recruiting. I loved your point about they need to make sure they're keeping the ones they have, rather than focusing on bringing more in, although that is the nature of the beast. I think you're first-hand knowledge of a long-time consultant may bear a little weight. Will it change things? Who knows, but at least they will have heard our concerns.

Thanks again for the thoughtful post.

Tammy

 

[chefann]

details please

I'm almost embarrassed how easy dinner was. I sprinkled 2 boneless chicken breasts with the chipotle rub and sauteed them in the 10" skillet, and heated up a tub of Texas mashed potatoes (white cheddar and and poblano peppers).


In regards to the value of free products earned this SAT, Colleen and I were talking about the incentives we've seen in PC over the years, and she mentioned that way back, the first level of SAT would be $5000. At least we're given an opportunity now to earn something free with just 2 shows.

 

[BethCooks4U]

I, too, am disappointed with several things this season but keep in mind that it is all about what those at HO believe will enhance the business. Sometimes the carrots they give us are so great that they can't possibly match that and sometimes they start by offering less and giving more later - disappointing those that can't qualify for the promotion.

For instance, I was at the first New Director Academy. It was 250 miles from my home. I had to provide my own transportation, hotel, most meals and pay for the event. New directors can get it all free AND it's at HO. That is huge. I am not happy that I had to take it all out of pocket but I am not sorry that I invested in it.

As far as the recruiting push, I agree that it seems that is all they care about any more. I personally think that it is a negative path but I don't know the big picture. Most people on my team have made it clear that they do not want to recruit so this is very negative for them but others will reap all those benefits and carrots. It's all about what you want to get out of the business and more important what you want to put into it.

 

[schel]

I think the Cookware Protectors will be a hot item! I know a lot of people who have no space to store cookware and have to stack them. Same with stones.

I second that! Thing is though they should have come out with them before they came out with the Executive Cookware or at the same time think how much we would have sold then!

I was at a hosts home and you should have seen her she just tossed her pan in the drawer she had her things in. I politly informed her a great way to keep her pans in great working order is to nest them with old dish towels or dish rags inbetween them.

She said "good idea!"

Ummmm.... Duhahhh! Not to be mean but I guess thats why we are there for those not so kitchen friendly!

Schel

 

[rennea]

I think that everyone as the right to post their feelings and views......


But for ME this is the FIRST time I have made sell-o-thon and I don't want somebody POOPING on my parade.:cry: I don't want someone to tell me I should have gotten more. It's kind of ruining my pride and joy

But I do understand work harder= less bang!!!! Welcome to our world today, it's just not PC it's everywhere.

I DON'T agree with all the pushing to recruit, somebody the other day it made it seem like Amway (their words not mine). I guess when I signed with PC I didn't expect much so now I'm ok with everything. A trip would be great but I knew getting into this I would never earn one:grumpy:

 

[etteluap70PC]

Rhonda B.,
I agree with alot of what you said And maybee I should apologize, we do all have a right to our opinion.
It is my opinion that we should not whine that what we have is not good enough. People in general need to learn to be more gracious and thankfull.

Overall it really torks me off when someone has things that my family does not and then complains about it.

I do not agree with everything that HO does but I will attempt to see the big picture and figure out how it will help me have a better business.

 

[baychef]

It really amazes me how someone is not able to speak their mind on this board w/o the "happy go lucky" people attacking her. She already stated she is grateful for the items she is getting, just disapointed it's not as much as in the past. I don't see what is wrong with that (Someone had to tell her to take it up with HO). These boards should be for everyone to voice their opinion.

I've said before I love the PC and if I won the lottery this is the only job I wouldn't give up. That doesn't mean I have to agree w/everything they do. Sure they give us sales incentives, every sales job has them. This is considered income. Income which has gone down based on the sales having to be higher and the amount being less. I would not consider my sales incentives as a GIFT. A gift is something you get w/o having to do something for it.

Same with the trips. Sales have to be higher. Someone already mentioned level one used to be $15,000 in sales. Sure prices are higher per item which in theory should make our sales higher, but not to the tune they raised the incentive.

Trust me I'm very thankful I reached level 2 and I will be thrilled when the FedEx guy comes. The sales incentives don't make we work my job harder, I try to be consistent year round, but they are nice when I reach them.

I do personally think the harder they make the sales incentives to reach the more consultants they will have not staying with the business. My old director was one of them. She always kept telling me how much better the company used to be and how the trips were easier to obtain. She has since left the company. She was with PC for over 10 years.

My opinion can only be that it is continuing the trend of making it harder, but yet they are pushing to get more consultants. It would be good to keep the consultants they have.

I still think PC is the best company for direct sales (even though I haven't sold anything else). I love the new shows, recipes, products. It is always so much fun. The excitement is always there. I love showing the products to others and seeing my hosts excitement when they reach a high level. It's just fun! I've also learned so much more then I ever thought I would. The training is the best! I like that my kids actually get to see me work and reach goals. I think this will help them in the future. I have recieved many gifts from this business - most that are not products. I thank God for leading me to the PC. It has really helped me through the transition of losing a job I had for 15 years and given me many more skills for my future.

Rhonda, I have deleted my post. It was not meant to be mean. Yes, I did suggest that it be brought up with HO. Yes, we are all entitled to our opinion whether it be negative or not. HO needs to know how we feel whether it is good or bad.

 

[wadesgirl]

It really amazes me how someone is not able to speak their mind on this board w/o the "happy go lucky" people attacking her. She already stated she is grateful for the items she is getting, just disapointed it's not as much as in the past. I don't see what is wrong with that (Someone had to tell her to take it up with HO). These boards should be for everyone to voice their opinion.

I've said before I love the PC and if I won the lottery this is the only job I wouldn't give up. That doesn't mean I have to agree w/everything they do. Sure they give us sales incentives, every sales job has them. This is considered income. Income which has gone down based on the sales having to be higher and the amount being less. I would not consider my sales incentives as a GIFT. A gift is something you get w/o having to do something for it.

Same with the trips. Sales have to be higher. Someone already mentioned level one used to be $15,000 in sales. Sure prices are higher per item which in theory should make our sales higher, but not to the tune they raised the incentive.

Trust me I'm very thankful I reached level 2 and I will be thrilled when the FedEx guy comes. The sales incentives don't make we work my job harder, I try to be consistent year round, but they are nice when I reach them.

I do personally think the harder they make the sales incentives to reach the more consultants they will have not staying with the business. My old director was one of them. She always kept telling me how much better the company used to be and how the trips were easier to obtain. She has since left the company. She was with PC for over 10 years.

My opinion can only be that it is continuing the trend of making it harder, but yet they are pushing to get more consultants. It would be good to keep the consultants they have.

I still think PC is the best company for direct sales (even though I haven't sold anything else). I love the new shows, recipes, products. It is always so much fun. The excitement is always there. I love showing the products to others and seeing my hosts excitement when they reach a high level. It's just fun! I've also learned so much more then I ever thought I would. The training is the best! I like that my kids actually get to see me work and reach goals. I think this will help them in the future. I have recieved many gifts from this business - most that are not products. I thank God for leading me to the PC. It has really helped me through the transition of losing a job I had for 15 years and given me many more skills for my future.

I so agree with this. I got called selfish by a first time poster for not agreeing with the recruiting requirement for the Incentives Trip. There is no need for name calling when someone is just expressing an opinion. Plus it was just a misunderstanding in the first place, she wasn't being ungrateful or anything, just misunderstood the levels.

I love this company and the incentives are one thing that is a perk to me. I would still sell PC even if I wasn't able to acheive all the incentives because some incentives are acheivable at in MY business and some aren't. If want a certain incentive, you can be for sure that I will do what's required to get it.

 

[PCGINA]

I work for my local County government...

I do not receive a FREE turkey or ham at Christmas
(OH!! - excuse me - at Winter holiday).

I have NO way of earning any type of bonuses....(I maxed out a long time ago - and there is no way to increase my pay)!!

The only way to earn a trip in my office is if you are the lucky one to go pick up the coffee order at Starbucks in the morning...!!

4 ...... 4 years ago, we received a .03% cost of living increase :balloon:

I get a "good job" or pat on the back occasionally....

I work with mostly overeducated MEN.... they don't understand why I am so thrilled about kitchen gadgets :yuck:

I was given a new pair of scissors this year though.... I should be thankful... the other Legal Assistants didn't get any...

I love and appreciate everything "I HAVE EARNED" from this great business. At least I have the capability ot EARN it.... We work hard for the extras we EARN and I look forward to receiving my box of EARNED items being delivered....

I guess if I want to EARN a trip somewhere this year - I will have to step up to the plate and meet the requirements....

OR

be quiet and hope for that turkey at Winter holiday...

 

[wadesgirl]

I work for my local County government...

I do not receive a FREE turkey or ham at Christmas
(OH!! - excuse me - at Winter holiday).

I have NO way of earning any type of bonuses....(I maxed out a long time ago - and there is no way to increase my pay)!!

The only way to earn a trip in my office is if you are the lucky one to go pick up the coffee order at Starbucks in the morning...!!

4 ...... 4 years ago, we received a .03% cost of living increase :balloon:

I get a "good job" or pat on the back occasionally....

I work with mostly overeducated MEN.... they don't understand why I am so thrilled about kitchen gadgets :yuck:

I was given a new pair of scissors this year though.... I should be thankful... the other Legal Assistants didn't get any...

I love and appreciate everything "I HAVE EARNED" from this great business. At least I have the capability ot EARN it.... We work hard for the extras we EARN and I look forward to receiving my box of EARNED items being delivered....

I guess if I want to EARN a trip somewhere this year - I will have to step up to the plate and meet the requirements....

OR

be quiet and hope for that turkey at Winter holiday...

That is one thing I love about this company! I've never had a job before were you get so much recognition for doing good or incentives to earn or bonuses (I did get a turkey one year - we left it in DH freezer on accident when we moved in together!). I was just thinking today that if I had got a 2nd job like I had thought about doing before I signed with PC, I would be screwed this week because my car is in the shop all week (DH and I work together at our regular job so he's driving this week). I would have no way of getting to that 2nd job. But I planned my PC shows around this week since I knew I would have no transportation. I love how I can work my life around PC rather than the other way around.

 

[pamperedlinda]

.....I love how I can work my life around PC rather than the other way around.

I could not have said it better myself! :love: :chef: :love: :chef:

 

[rennea]

I was given a new pair of scissors this year though.... I should be thankful... the other Legal Assistants didn't get any...

Oh my gosh Gina I nearly choked on my tea, I'm sorry to laugh but that is so funny

Aw I love sarcasm