Baby/ Toddler Sleep Advice Needed!

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Discussion Overview

This thread explores various personal experiences and strategies related to helping babies and toddlers sleep through the night. Participants share their challenges and approaches, reflecting on their children's sleep patterns and the methods they have tried.

Discussion Character

  • Anecdotal
  • Opinion-based
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, expresses reluctance to use the cry-it-out (CIO) method, feeling it may be close to neglect, and shares their exhaustion from their child's sleep issues.
  • Another participant mentions that their daughter slept well as a baby but experienced disruptions during teething, leading them to co-sleep temporarily.
  • One participant notes that none of their children were good sleepers, with one son starting to sleep through the night after they stopped nursing him and after implementing a crying method.
  • Several users emphasize the importance of consistency in sleep training, suggesting that once a method is started, it should not be abandoned.
  • One participant shares their experience of their son waking up multiple times at night and expresses a desire to have him sleep independently before the arrival of a new baby.
  • Another participant suggests using white noise to help with sleep, noting that their child has become accustomed to it and finds it comforting.
  • Some participants discuss the potential reasons for their children's sleep disruptions, such as wanting to sleep with parents or waking up scared or thirsty.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ among participants regarding the effectiveness of various sleep strategies, with some advocating for consistency and others sharing experiences of co-sleeping or alternative methods. No clear consensus emerges on a single approach that works for all.

Contextual Notes

Participants share their personal experiences with sleep challenges, often reflecting on their children's unique needs and behaviors. The discussion highlights the variability in sleep patterns among children and the diverse approaches parents take.

Who May Find This Useful

Parents and caregivers within the consultant community who are seeking to understand different perspectives on toddler sleep issues may find this discussion relevant.

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Jerk Chicken NachosSo what does everyone think of these??? Any variations?
Interesting cross sells?
 
I have not tried them yet, but I am very interested in them.

Lisa
 
I made them for a meeting. They were very yummy. I thought they would make an ok demo.
 
I made them at a show and they were gone immediately! The only thing I would change would be to make more of the sour cream/jerk seasoning mixture. I put the amount the recipe called for in a decorator bottle to drizzle it but it would have been good to have on the side too!

BTW: that host signed!
 
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What did you use for the chicken?
 
I made these with the Southwestern Seasoning. I cut the raw chicken into cubes and used 1 tbsp sesoning and 1 tbsp oil mixed with the chicken. Then sauted it until browned. Then did as the recipe directs.

Had to do this because I needed my last ounce of Jerk Seasoning for my show the next day and everyone loved it!
 
I used chicken breasts and followed the recipe as directed. Yummmm.
 
I substtuted a tomato for the red pepper & let it set while the nachos were baking & WOW they were a hit! I'm going to keep trying different variations. The southwest one sounds yummy.
These are great served w/margaritas or wine..... :)
 
My 13 month old has slept "through the night" a grand total of less than 10 times in his little life. I am reluctant to ferberize him as I sort of feel like CIO is close to neglect. But it may come to that. I am exhausted- beyond reason. My other two boys simply slept through one night and that was that. Tell me what you did with your kids to get them to sleep through. Anything at all.
 
Sorry, Friday. Not much advise from this end!! My DD slept well when she was a baby. Although, when her teeth started coming in, she was fussy at night and I would take her to the spare bedroom and sleep with her. I know that that may not be an option for you, but it worked fine for me. It took her quite a while to get back to sleeping on her own.

Guess that wasn't much help, hey?? :blushing:

Good luck. I hope someone is a lot more helpful than me........hehe
 
None of mine were good sleepers. They were all closer to two before they started sleeping through the night. My first son did when I quit nursing him. My 2yr old (today's his B-day!) still wakes up sometimes but he's pretty good for the most part. I did eventually let him cry himself to sleep which helped him sleep through the whole night too. I tried it when he was a little younger and had to give up because he wouldn't give up. So I waited a couple months and then it worked much better. He didn't cry for more than a few minutes. And it got shorter every time. Now he goes to bed good.

Trust me, I know how you are feeling. It seemed like everyone I knew had babies that slept good and mine NEVER did!! I thought I was going to go crazy eventually. The best advice is just to try different things and see what works the best for you. Actually, my best advice would be to remain consistant. That's the only thing it worked for me. Don't do something different every night. Consistency is KEY. Don't give up because it will happen.
 
Consistency is key & remember too that once you start, don't go back. As much as it may kill you for the first day or two, if you let him get back up/sleep with you/etc, you're teaching him that fussing long enough will make you give in.

What's causing him not to sleep? Does he only want to sleep with you? Is he just not tired? Does he wake up scared? Thirsty? That will help to figure out what to do, too.
 
friday said:
My 13 month old has slept "through the night" a grand total of less than 10 times in his little life. I am reluctant to ferberize him as I sort of feel like CIO is close to neglect. But it may come to that. I am exhausted- beyond reason. My other two boys simply slept through one night and that was that. Tell me what you did with your kids to get them to sleep through. Anything at all.

What is he doing? Just waking up at a certain time? And how long is he up? What is CIO?

My girls were sleeping through the night by 2 months old but they occasionally went through spells where they would wake up in the middle of the night. The key is do not pick him up! If he is standing up in his crib, lay him back down and pat his back for 1 minute or less. Firmly tell him it is not time to get up, it's time to go to sleep. Then walk out of the room. If he continues to cry, go in every 10 minutes and do the same thing as above. Going in every 10 minutes reassures him that you are there and makes him feel secure, yet you are not gratifying him. If you pick him up or give him something to drink, then that is what he is waking up for. Not giving in to both of those teaches him that nighttime is sleep time.

I hope that helps... It worked for us. :)
 
I forgot to mention that it normally takes 3 days to establish a new sleep pattern. When you start it, you need to stay consistent in doing the same thing every night or you will prolong the process. Don't get discouraged, just stay consistent, and before long both of you will be getting plenty of sleep!

P.S. Also, if he is sleeping too much during the day it could hinder his sleep patterns at night.
 
I have no advice. I would love to change my son's sleeping too. He is three. The only way for him to sleep all night is in the bed with us where he is b/c I will do anything for a good ngihts sleep.

He has never slept good. The first 4 months he started crying at 10pm and would fall asleep around 3 AM and would be up by 6 AM. With barely no if any at all day naps. So, he was not sleeping too much during the day or had his days and nights mixed up.

At 1 he started waking up once a night and he will still do that if he is in his own bed. And he will not go to sleep in his own bed unless I lay down with him. I do not have the heart to make him cry until he falls asleep. Plus, he is in a twin bed and he would just come into our room and would not stay in his room anyway.

I would LOVE to have him in his own bed by the time this baby gets here in May though!!!! I don't see it happening though unless I just make him cry and cry.
 
Maybe try running a fan in his room (create some white noise) my son is now 5 and he reminds us to turn it on!
we started using it to begin with just to block out other noise in the house (seems like grand central !) w/ 2 older kids running around.
 
crystalscookingnow said:
Consistency is key & remember too that once you start, don't go back. As much as it may kill you for the first day or two, if you let him get back up/sleep with you/etc, you're teaching him that fussing long enough will make you give in.

What's causing him not to sleep? Does he only want to sleep with you? Is he just not tired? Does he wake up scared? Thirsty? That will help to figure out what to do, too.

I thought maybe it was all about wanting to sleep with us- but he sleeps badly with us too. I can't imagine that he is not tired- he only has one nap during the day- late morning for anywhere from 45 minutes to 2 hours. I thought he was wanting to nurse, but when my milk dried up out of the blue, while it did tick him off, it didn't stop the night wakings. Still working on the what.
 
twingirlsmom said:
What is he doing? Just waking up at a certain time? And how long is he up? What is CIO?

My girls were sleeping through the night by 2 months old but they occasionally went through spells where they would wake up in the middle of the night. The key is do not pick him up! If he is standing up in his crib, lay him back down and pat his back for 1 minute or less. Firmly tell him it is not time to get up, it's time to go to sleep. Then walk out of the room. If he continues to cry, go in every 10 minutes and do the same thing as above. Going in every 10 minutes reassures him that you are there and makes him feel secure, yet you are not gratifying him. If you pick him up or give him something to drink, then that is what he is waking up for. Not giving in to both of those teaches him that nighttime is sleep time.

I hope that helps... It worked for us. :)

CIO is cry it out. THe trouble with walking out of the room and letting him cry is that he shares a room with his 13 year old brother. It is getting to the point where I am going to need to adjust that for a few days to get this dealt with.
 
reba515 said:
Maybe try running a fan in his room (create some white noise) my son is now 5 and he reminds us to turn it on!
we started using it to begin with just to block out other noise in the house (seems like grand central !) w/ 2 older kids running around.

I half way wonder if the lack of noise at night isnt part of the problem. THere are 5 of us here, and he is used to constant noise- until night time. Maybe it just gets too quiet and he feels alone?
 
friday said:
I half way wonder if the lack of noise at night isnt part of the problem. THere are 5 of us here, and he is used to constant noise- until night time. Maybe it just gets too quiet and he feels alone?

I had someone suggest to let mine watch tv until he falls alseep.That would create noise. Or have a radio playing. Luke doesn't have a tv in his room yet.
 
can't hurt to try it then.
 
You both may want to read Babywise by Gary Ezzo...it's about getting your child to sleep through the night. Although it deals with infants, there are principles in there that may help you.
 
I got this book- the no cry sleep solution. It makes good sense, but I don't know if I can keep from wimping out and not just giving him his way when I am so tired by 2-4-6am. I have to try though- this is too much.
 
Friday, it WILL take gumption and determination. Give yourself a week to make it happen.
You can do it, we'll be here for you!
 
Thank you Kimberly. I will be checking in. I had a chat with the 13 year old, and he seems to think he doesnt need much sleep, but if it gets too rough for him he said he will just take his pillow and go sleep on the couch. There is a second bed in his 10 year old brothers room but he refuses to sleep there.
 
so- for tonight I refused to let him fall asleep in anyones arms. I did let him nurse right before I put him down, but he was not fully asleep. I laid him down and he cried for a short time then fell asleep. This was the easy part. Now to repeat the process WITHOUT the nursing when he gets up at 12,2, and 4.
 
At 4:30am I caved. He had cried himself hoarse, and I just feel like I tortured him all night long. He fell asleep almost as soon as I picked him up and is now in my bed sleeping quietly for the first time tonight. I'm a mess.
 
friday
martin sounds so much like matthew is scary this is what i did......
try giving him some pasta before bed to fill his tummy or cereal if you prefer
put him in his crib and tell him its time for him to go to sleep and you will get him when its time to wake up in the morning-i know this made sound silly but it does work they are so much smarter than we give them credit for sometimes :)
rub his back etc until he falls asleep, you may need to do this for a cpl of nights
then gradually progress to leaving his room eg standing beside crib until alseep, then sitting in chair till sleeping, then by the door, then out the door
its my modified version of what i saw on super nanny-i continued to soothe and talk to him as i cud not listen to him cry :(
also start on a friday night so hubby is there when you need to sleep in the next morning :)
good luck
 
friday said:
At 4:30am I caved. He had cried himself hoarse, and I just feel like I tortured him all night long. He fell asleep almost as soon as I picked him up and is now in my bed sleeping quietly for the first time tonight. I'm a mess.

Oh you poor thing! and I bet you are exhausted too.
 
friday said:
At 4:30am I caved. He had cried himself hoarse, and I just feel like I tortured him all night long. He fell asleep almost as soon as I picked him up and is now in my bed sleeping quietly for the first time tonight. I'm a mess.

I'm so sorry it was rough. Remember, it is just as rough for your son as it is for you. Just stay consistent. When you do, he'll realize you mean business and aren't a pushover. After several days--at least 3--of this he'll be ready to cave to go back to sleep in his own crib...he's just as tired as you!

Heather brought up a good point about him feeling full. Is he eating a good dinner? He may need something firmer--like cereal--to help him sleep longer. Just a thought.

P.S. How did the going-in-every-10-minutes go?
 

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