New Executive Flash: Restrictions on Recipes for Personal Websites

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Discussion Overview

The thread discusses recent changes regarding the types of recipes Pampered Chef consultants can post on their personal websites. Participants express their feelings about these restrictions and share their experiences with using recipes in their business practices.

Discussion Character

  • Opinion-based
  • Anecdotal
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, expresses frustration over the new policy that restricts posting non-Pampered Chef recipes on personal websites, feeling it limits their ability to share beloved recipes with customers.
  • Another participant shares an email from a director explaining that the policy is not new, but emphasizes that consultants can no longer type up Pampered Chef recipes themselves for their websites.
  • Several users mention that they are only allowed to post recipes that can be copied and pasted from the Pampered Chef website, which some find limiting.
  • One participant notes that they feel confused about the rules, especially after just starting to use their website.
  • Another participant shares their experience of using non-Pampered Chef recipes at shows, suggesting that it may be problematic under the new guidelines.
  • Some participants express a desire to incorporate their own cooking styles and recipes into their presentations, indicating a preference for flexibility in recipe usage.
  • One participant highlights the challenges of selling Pampered Chef products in a rural area where customers often prefer cheaper alternatives.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ among participants regarding the impact of the new recipe restrictions. While some express strong dissatisfaction, others seem to understand the reasoning behind the policy. No clear consensus emerges on how to navigate these changes.

Contextual Notes

Participants share personal experiences and feelings about the implications of the new policy on their business practices and customer interactions. The discussion reflects a mix of emotions, including frustration, confusion, and a desire for more flexibility.

Who May Find This Useful

Consultants navigating the new recipe posting guidelines on their personal websites may find the shared experiences and viewpoints relevant to their own situations.

fruit76loop
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Hello everyone!

I just got a copy of the New Executive Flash! It pertains to our personal websites and what we can list on them!! :(

This refers to the recipes we are allowed to put on our sites. We are only allowed to put PC recipes on our sites and we must include wordage saying it is a PC recipe.

I am NOT happy about this! :mad: I have a news section in my website that is for recipes I do at shows. I have begun doing Power Cooking shows (which I got from My NED, Chris Manion) and according to this new policy, I will not be able to list these recipes for my customers! :eek: Or other recipes such as the rice cooker cake, because this is NOT a PC recipe!! I mostly prepare PC recipes at my show, but I have found some that I love like the rice cooker cake that my hosts and customers love!

I personally just think this is a load of crap! We pay to have a site and now they are telling us what we can and can't put on it! Especially something as simple as recipes!

Sorry maybe it is just a bad day...had my show for tonight cancel because we got 12 inches of snow! Good reason if any...but I was looking forward to the double points! :(
 
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Me againHere is an e-mail that I received from Chris Manion... makes more sense. Not as furious now...just sad :( .

Re: the recipes: we've never been permitted to put non-pc recipes on any document, flyer or website that carries the PC logo because it implies that all those recipes come from us, TPC. If anything should ever be wrong or bring about a lawsuit or injury, the TPC name and company would be liable because of the implication that it was our TPC recipe being on a page with the TPC logo. Therefore, this really isn't a "new" policy.

What IS new is that we are not being permitted to type up any PC recipes ourselves to add to our website. We can only refer to them by name and ask our customers to contact us via the website or email so that we can send them the recipe that way (via email).

Chris
 
PC recipesMarlene, there is a rice cooker recipe in the new Season's Best. I can't remember whats its called but its got hazelnuts and Nutella. I guess you can supplement this recipe for the one you already use. Hope this helps.


mcanavan
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Yes, I know...there is that recipe. But personally, I don't like it as much as some of the others! I am just sad that we won't even be able to type in old PC recipes! We are only allowed to use ones that we can cut and paste from the company website! :(
 
That is CRAP!!!! I mean what else is it going to be? Everytime I turn around it's something else with this website stuff. We sure do pay a good bit for it to not have any liberties at all with it....makes me wonder if it's even worth the hassle?! You know I bust my butt trying to get my name out there and use what things I can to bring people to the site but if they keep taking away what can you promote??? Sorry for venting, but it's good to get it off the chest.
 
it really stinks that the day i get my website and get some stuff on there including a recipe they start throwing new rules at us!! i put a recipe from the new SB on there...is that ok or do i have to take it off? like i wasnt confused enough already about the whole thing!!
 
Monica I believe as long as it's from the SB series or off the PC website it is ok. But what I have read before you have to put that statement after every recipe you put on your website. I personal have not recieved anything from my director about it yet...but I'm sure it's coming sooner or later.
 
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The only recipes...we are allowed to post are ones from the web site that we can copy and paste. They are not allowing us to type in any recipes. :(
 
just look at it as a way to cross sell SB or cookbooks
 
Do you thinkThey are just looking for the copyright information to be included? For example, if you posted a recipe from the All the Best cookbook and included the copyright info would that be okay?
 
fruit76loop said:
This refers to the recipes we are allowed to put on our sites. We are only allowed to put PC recipes on our sites and we must include wordage saying it is a PC recipe.
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You are free to post your own recipes in our section! :)
http://www.chefsuccess.com/recipes.php
 
What about recipes at shows?I know there are a number of consultants that don't always use Pampered Chef recipes at their shows, or use variations. I'm assuming that would be a problem, too, then. :eek:

Diane

P.S. As a side note, could a guest come after us for getting sick on a dish we prepared at a show? Does liability insurance cover that? I'm sure that's in the RFS or somewhere, but I don't remember reading it.
 
I never knew we were allowed to use other recipes at our shows. Common sense would tell me that we should only cook what is in our cookbooks. I sell cookbooks all the time for the recipes I prepared. If I made a recipe of my own I would loose out on those sales.
 
Not sure I agree...luvs2sell it,

I appreciate your comments, however I'm not sure I totally agree with you. While I do agree that the best way to show our products is through our recipes, there are certainly exceptions! I have given hosts loaves of bread from the mini loaf pan (before the beer bread came out, I gave banana or cranberry nut bread - not a PC recipe, but sold lots of mini loaf pans!). I've rolled out french bread dough, brushed w/ butter and sprinkled with cinnamon/sugar, baked, cut into triangles and used it for our creamy chocolate fondue (I sell lots of rectangle stones!)

I LOVE making rings, but sometimes I do variations (roast beef w/ pepperjack cheese is AWESOME!). I always talk about All The Best when I do those, and guess what? All The Best is my #3 top seller.

I guess what I like to show my guests is that you don't have to make only PC recipes with our products. Our job is to sell tools to make our lives in the kitchen easier and more efficient, regardless of the recipe. I love to explain that to people - even baking a frozen pizza tastes better on a stone (I've even baked a frozen pizza at a show once, too!)


Diane
 
I agree....I live in a rural area and frankly PC is not a great business to be in here. People here buy everything at WalMart...groceries, tools, clothes, cooking tools...because they think WalMart has the best price and it is cheap enough that if something breaks/wears out they can go buy another one. I struggle a lot getting people into the "you get what you pay for" mode and to get them to see what a great investment our products are. Personally I do not use a lot of PC recipes at home. Some are too fancy and complicated, some my family hates, and for some, trying to find the ingredients is a nightmare. I have been thinking that I need to show them how to incorporate what they already cook into our wonderful products. I always talk about the rectangle baker and lid/bowl. I tell them that on Sunday evening I put a whole chicken or roast into the baker, add my potatoes, carrots, onions, and spices, put the lid on and slide it in the oven. When I return home from church, my family's complete dinner is ready and I just have to pull it out of the oven and put it on the table. People here do not want to go to a lot of trouble to prepare meals for their family. We are beans and potatoes, stew, roast or sandwich types of people. We have 3-5 children and live on a small budget, because most people in our area do not make much money.
 
Shawna, I know your pain....i live in the backroads of my town and not many people know about PC here either and those that do cant afford much more than a mini spatula!! its been hard getting shows. as for recipes, i think if you show them that they can cook "regular" foods as well you might sell more. tell or show them that they can fix fish sticks, chicken nuggests, or corn dogs on the pizza stone!! thats more along the people in my towns budget and wants. they just dont eat fancy here. and not all PC recipes are fancy but some are a little more "elegant" than i would normally fix. i think it just depends on the area you are in. If you live in the city with alot of good industry then you can probably do just PC recipes....for us smaller folks try toning the recipes down and see what happens. you might be surprised!!
 
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It is your show...you can make any recipe you want. Or not cook at all! That is the great thing about the PC!! :D

My gripe is that the only recipes we can include are those available on the PC website. We have to copy and paste them, so no if you have a recipe you want out of "All the Best" and it is not on the website, you are NOT allowed to type it in! :eek: Now, do you see what one of my main problems is??

Also, how many of you are doing the rice cooker cake (cake mix 1/2 can frosting)? This is NOT a PC recipe, the hazelnut one is, but not this variation. So, if you are only doing PC recipes at your shows and that is what you want to do great, but I personally love to do "regular food" as well as variations on the recipes.
 
I of course tell people how great the stones cook frozen pizzas and chicken fingers and a roast to die for. But at my shows I only do recipes out of the book. No rice cooker cake here. :D And I do live in a very small town.
 
I do a combination of PC recipes, variations of them and original recipes (like the rice cooker cake). It depends on what the host wants.

I will only do non-PC recipes if I absolutely trust them and have made them several times before. I often do a PC recipe for the first time AT shows and tell them so - pointing out that I never worry about those recipes because our test kitchens do all the trials before they even share the recipes. As far as variations go, often those happen because the host gets the wrong ingredients or doesn't like a certain ingredient. Haven't had one fail yet when the basic recipe is PC!!

I am not happy that they've made those new recipe rules either but I can understand why. I wish though, that we could put our own recipes up with the disclaimer that it is NOT a PC recipe and was not tested by the company.

I also think that we should be allowed to put PC recipes that we share at our shows up for the guests to copy if they like as long as we add their required statement and what book it is in. People always want a book that they have gotten one or two recipes from because they know that there will be more great ones in the book too! No threat there!!

The new policy makes it not worth the effort to put recipes on our websites. We can just tell them how to find them in the recipe search and save ourselves the typing - cutting/pasting time.
 
fruit76loop said:
we are allowed to post are ones from the web site that we can copy and paste. They are not allowing us to type in any recipes. :(
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I was just going to mention that all the recipes in the cookbooks are copyrighted, so they cannot be typed or reproduced in any form without permission.

So, if we're dealing with people who want to cook, expect us to cook, and expect recipes, we really can't help them out, can we?

Lemmee see if I got this right:

1) We can post recipes. Well, sort of.
2) We can't post recipes from the cookbooks lest you violate the copyright.
3) We can't post our own recipes because they are not controlled by TPC.
4) You can post recipes that the customer is perfectly capable of finding and downloading themselves. Oh, now, there's value-added service for us to provide. :rolleyes:

It's like being a kid again: "Okay kids, you're all set. Go have fun, only, don't do anything that might actually be fun."

This is a catch-22 that is going to have to be addressed.
 
Copyright InfoI always understood that as along as you include the copyright information and give the copyrighted individual credit, you were not in voilation of any copyright laws.
 
Sk8Mom209 said:
I always understood that as along as you include the copyright information and give the copyrighted individual credit, you were not in voilation of any copyright laws.
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Take a look at the first page of any TPC cookbook. See that disclaimer at the bottom? The one that says, All rights reserved?

That means ALL rights are held by the rights holder. Without permission, you technically cannot even read it to someone over the phone. It's all a matter of how tightly they wish to enforce their copyright.
 
this is to the Kitchen Guy

I just wanted to say that i love reading your posts. i always get a good laugh out of your sarcasm!! thanks for brightening my day with a much needed laugh!!
 
Thank you, Monica!

Life is far too important to take seriously.
 
Weekly Bites - Feb 21 EditionRead it and weep.

If you didn't happen to read it, here's the official word:

TPC Weekly Bites 2/21/06 said:
You may copy and paste recipes onto your Personal Web Sites from four sources:

1. Those found under Products, Etc. on the corporate Web site. This includes recipes from Product Use and Care Recipe Cards and the monthly featured recipe.
2. The current and previous season's Season's Best Recipe Collection, which include the theme Show recipes, found under Products and Recipes on Consultant's Corner.
3. Archived issues of Consultant News and Weekly Bites found under Managing Your Business and News You Can Use on Consultant's Corner.
4. Finally, any recipes printed on promotional flyers found under Consultant Incentives on Consultant's Corner.
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Well, so much for posting my recipe for Kickapoo Joy Juice.
 
I don't normally complain much, but I must admit the recipe thing really irked me. So I just made a complaint to PC. I just think that this decreases our unique "flair" to the business. I don't think it'll change anything, but at least I showed my displeasure at something that bothers me...Must admit though, this is the 1st thing PC has ever done that really got my goat!
Cheers,
Angela
 
The_Kitchen_Guy said:
Well, so much for posting my recipe for Kickapoo Joy Juice.
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You can share the recipe here! :D :p :rolleyes:
 
i have to agree with acherry. i just got my website like a week or so ago and was really excited. the day i got it...this mess about the recipes came out. i think if we have to pay for a website we should be able to post a simple recipe!! we already use there backgrounds, colors, etc.!! before long they will be telling us what we can or cannot post on there. just makes me really wonder if i want to keep the website now or not!!
 
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The_Kitchen_Guy said:
Read it and weep.

If you didn't happen to read it, here's the official word:



Well, so much for posting my recipe for Kickapoo Joy Juice.
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Oh...Kitchen Guy...what would we do with out you? :rolleyes: You keep us light hearted, thank you!! And I want this recipe! :D
 
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