Lake Effect Snow Warning...again

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Discussion Overview

This thread discusses the impact of Lake Effect snow and the associated weather conditions, with participants sharing personal experiences related to snow accumulation, school closures, and travel disruptions. The conversation also touches on the broader topic of global warming and its perceived connection to weather patterns.

Discussion Character

  • Anecdotal
  • Opinion-based
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions the significant snow accumulation on the lakeshore compared to areas further east, expressing frustration over frequent school closures due to snow days.
  • Another participant shares their experience of high winds and extremely low temperatures, humorously noting the discomfort caused by the cold.
  • A participant discusses their parents' travel plans being affected by the weather, highlighting the challenges faced by travelers during heavy snow.
  • Several participants express a sense of exasperation with the amount of snow received since Thanksgiving, with one humorously wishing for global warming to alleviate the snow burden.
  • Multiple participants agree that global warming is often cited as a reason for various weather phenomena, regardless of whether conditions are extreme or mild.
  • One participant reflects on their experience with Lake Effect snow in New York, noting that some people are unaware of its effects.
  • Another participant mentions the ongoing snow and school closures, expressing hope for clear weather during an upcoming event.
  • One participant shares their experience of managing children at home during snow days, discussing activities they engaged in to keep them occupied.
  • A participant provides a historical perspective on winter weather patterns, referencing past winters with significant snowfall.
  • Another participant humorously suggests blaming personal issues, like weight gain, on global warming.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ on the extent to which global warming is responsible for current weather conditions, with some participants expressing agreement on its frequent mention in discussions about snow and other weather events, while others share personal anecdotes without a clear consensus on the topic.

Contextual Notes

The thread reflects a shared experience among participants living in areas affected by Lake Effect snow, with discussions rooted in personal anecdotes and regional weather patterns.

Who May Find This Useful

Participants in the consultant community who are experiencing similar weather conditions or those interested in discussing the impact of weather on daily life may find this thread relatable.

JAE
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I'm telling you. We get more snow on the lakeshore than 45 minutes east. Just check out the radar. If my kids have one more snow day off from school.....
 
Awww...yep, there were flurries here today so it was bound to come your way.
 
We're got high (COLD!) winds now, the temp is in one digit but the wind chill is minus two digits.It's freezin' all my digits.
 
My parents are supposed to be on the first flight in from Minneapolis tomorrow morning, on their way from Las Vegas.

When I talked to my mom tonight, my dad was winning at the poker table. I told her that was a good thing, because they'd need the money to rent a car and hotel room in Minne tomorrow because they sure weren't landing here :)

And I have another friend stuck in Denver...he was supposed to be home 10 hours ago, but he'll be home at 1:07 am, and then he has to drive to Battle Creek (about an hour on a good weather day). He then has to get up and teach in the morning. Yeesh. Glad I'm not him :)

Seriously, though. I'm about to just go off on a cloud or two. I'm over it. It's been almost 90 inches, spread out since about Thanksgiving. I know that's the definition of winter, but somebody call Al Gore! I want my global warming back!!





(and yes, I know that all of this snow is a direct result of the increased temperature of Lake Michigan, attributed to global warming, whatever the cause -- cyclical, cow farts, me taking too many car trips to McDonalds, whatever. But that's small consolation when I'm shoveling global warming out of the driveway.)
 
You don't need the disclaimer. Everyone knows that if we have lots of snow, it's because of global warming. If we have less than normal snow, it's because of global warming. If the apple crop if poor, it's because of global warming. If the apple crop is terrific, it's because of global warming. If there are lots of tornadoes in a year, it's because of global warming. If there aren't any tornadoes in a year, it's because of global warming. If the banana crop is bad, it's because of global warming. If the banana crop is good, it's because of global warming. If the temperatures in the UP are higher than normal next summer, it's because of global warming. If the temperatures in the UP are lower than normal next summer, it's because of global warming. Whatever the problem is, it's because of global warming.
 
The_Kitchen_Guy said:
You don't need the disclaimer. Everyone knows that if we have lots of snow, it's because of global warming. If we have less than normal snow, it's because of global warming. If the apple crop if poor, it's because of global warming. If the apple crop is terrific, it's because of global warming. If there are lots of tornadoes in a year, it's because of global warming. If there aren't any tornadoes in a year, it's because of global warming. If the banana crop is bad, it's because of global warming. If the banana crop is good, it's because of global warming. If the temperatures in the UP are higher than normal next summer, it's because of global warming. If the temperatures in the UP are lower than normal next summer, it's because of global warming.

Whatever the problem is, it's because of global warming.
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Ok then, I'm blaming my newly discovered leak in my roof and my husband's bad habits on it too! LOL :D :D
 
We get Lake Effect here too....I am in Ny off of Lake Ontario...some people don't even know what it is...THAT amazes me.....everyone should drive through lake effect just ONce in thrie life!! :D
 
It's snowing here right now....again - Lake Effect, of course. EVERYTHING is closed today, except Jenison Schools....I think that has more to do with the fact that we are out of snow days, and mid-winter break (which I don't remember ever having when I was a kid!) starts on Thursday. I hope I have a show tonight. It's supposed to snow until 3pm, then we get a reprieve of a few hours, and then the lake effect is supposed to start again tonight. I'm just hoping the time between 6-9 is clear!:D


Oh - and I always find it particularly amusing that the colder than normal temps we've been having are also blamed on Global Warming....

Do you think I can blame my inability to lose weight on global warming? I would really like to use that instead of my lack of exercise and self-control....:D :D :D
 
The_Kitchen_Guy said:
You don't need the disclaimer. Everyone knows that if we have lots of snow, it's because of global warming. If we have less than normal snow, it's because of global warming. If the apple crop if poor, it's because of global warming. If the apple crop is terrific, it's because of global warming. If there are lots of tornadoes in a year, it's because of global warming. If there aren't any tornadoes in a year, it's because of global warming. If the banana crop is bad, it's because of global warming. If the banana crop is good, it's because of global warming. If the temperatures in the UP are higher than normal next summer, it's because of global warming. If the temperatures in the UP are lower than normal next summer, it's because of global warming.

Whatever the problem is, it's because of global warming.
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We have the same thinking on this issue!

At least you have the lake affect excuse, what's the excuse in my area? It's been snowing like crazy since November. I don't remember a winter this bad in a long time. But my family that lives an hour away has had it worse. For every 1" we get here, they've got 2". One weekend it snowed more than 24" in 36 hours! And that was after 10" a couple days before!
 
The sun goes through a well-documented 11 year cycle of storms that, at their peak, cause tremendous interference with any kind of RF transmissions, including radio, television, and everything else that is broadcast into the atmosphere.The earth seems to go through cycles, too, even Winter weather. I don't have the charts in front of me, but it seems that every 10-15 years, we have a winter with record, or near record, snow falls and/or cold. You may recall from your history books that the Battle of the Bulge was fought during one of Europe's worst winters. Wisconsin had an awful winter in 1947, another one in 1972-73, 1978-79, and now this winter. In the 80's, warm winds off the Pacific, that were called El Niño back then, gave us several record warm winters in a row.
 
I hear ya on the LE snow SAE! I am in West Michigan as well. I was glad to see that my sons school was up and running this morning. Just a few more months of this cold stuff then we can switch to saying that it is too humid out there (which I will take any day over all that white stuff). We'll just have to :D and bear it for now.
 
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Yes, my kids are home. Again. Believe it or not, the sun is shining through my window right into my eyes, as I type. BUT, it's also snowing! I really don't like letting my kids play the Wii all day long, or most of the day, but what in the world else are they to be doing. It's a little too cold and windy to go sledding on the open lot at the end of the street. We played Scrabble, twice. We shoveled - three times total. Each of my two boys had one turn. I took a grocery shopping trip with one son. I let them make their own lunch while I made PC calls. I'm actually thinking we could use some homework, but they had winter break Friday and Monday. NO homework. THEN, I forgot about guitar lessons, which could have killed another hour. My Tuesday schedule was so off because I didn't have to pick my son up from school and take him there. UGH! I thought I was doing so well forcing them to play Scrabble. (It's a fun, faster way to play. No board.)
Now, I hear we may get even more snow tonight. I think I'll e-mail the teachers and ask for homework!
Oh, and I'm totally with you, KG, on the Global Warming thing. And yes Becky, because of the stay inside weather, you CAN blame your weight on global warming.
 
The_Kitchen_Guy said:
You don't need the disclaimer. Everyone knows that if we have lots of snow, it's because of global warming. If we have less than normal snow, it's because of global warming. If the apple crop if poor, it's because of global warming. If the apple crop is terrific, it's because of global warming. If there are lots of tornadoes in a year, it's because of global warming. If there aren't any tornadoes in a year, it's because of global warming. If the banana crop is bad, it's because of global warming. If the banana crop is good, it's because of global warming. If the temperatures in the UP are higher than normal next summer, it's because of global warming. If the temperatures in the UP are lower than normal next summer, it's because of global warming.

Whatever the problem is, it's because of global warming.
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The Furry Guy and I tent camp. When we first married over 20 years ago, we would put down a tarp, then our sleeping bag. A few years later we added a thick comforter between the tarp and the sleeping bag. Several years after that we added a thin mattress between the tarp and the comforter. Now we put down a tarp, a nice thick air mattress, then our sleeping bag. You see, the ground is much harder now than it was 20 years ago. We blame global warming. :rolleyes:
 
Yes, I know about the ground having gotten harder, I remember camping with just a sleeping bag and a tent years ago.While I like the list of things you put between you and the ground, I've gone even further.I put down a credit card at the check-in counter at the Holiday Inn or Marriott Fairfield Inn.
 
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Now we are under another warning. Haven't heard the time frame or the inches, yet.
I'm making that cheeseburger salad recipe for dinner. Salad for dinner means I can then bake something chocolate later. This is necessary because I keep seeing the thread about Dove Chocolate! Craving, craving, craving.

Here we go: Snow warning, 2-6" snow, especially by the lakeshore, in effect until sometime in the day tomorrow. Isolated higher amounts. Zero windchills. 10-15 mph winds. Currently we are at 16 by me. But, we should get a little sun the next few days.
 
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Just thought I'd update everyone while I'm feeling sorry for myself about this. I'd like to know what happens in Alaska when it snows even more than this. Does school get canceled? (Sorry, the following is in all caps. I copied and pasted. I added my own bold.)

...LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING NOW IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 PM EST WEDNESDAY...

THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING IS NOW IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 PM EST WEDNESDAY...FOR ADDITIONAL ACCUMULATIONS OF 6 OR MORE INCHES.

LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS WILL CONTINUE TO BE HEAVY AT TIMES TONIGHT AND WEDNESDAY. ADDITIONAL SNOW ACCUMULATIONS BY 4 PM WEDNESDAY OF 6 TO AS MUCH AS 12 INCHES ARE LIKELY.

BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW WILL CONTINUE TO BE AN ISSUE. WEST WINDS OF 15 TO 30 MPH WILL BECOME NORTH NORTHWEST AT 10 TO 20 MPH FOR LATE TONIGHT AND WEDNESDAY.
 
I am sorry to hear about you all being snowy, yesterday we had temps as high as 70 in the am and today was about 50. I would love a snow day in VA maybe if we don't have one this school year, they'll give em back to us(wishful thinking)
 
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I think this is our 6th snow day.
 
FYI windchill warning for my area so that means 40-50 below windchill until 12:00 PM tomorrow. all this talk about global warming and we get this winter, tons of snow and cold.
 
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poohritz said:
FYI windchill warning for my area so that means 40-50 below windchill until 12:00 PM tomorrow. all this talk about global warming and we get this winter, tons of snow and cold.
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That is too cold. I wouldn't even attempt to shovel in that stuff.
 
You don't go out in weather like that unless you have to. Exposed skin freezes in as little as 5 Min. so you have to be careful in weather like this, and plug in the car so it starts in the morning.
 
lisa717 said:
We get Lake Effect here too....I am in Ny off of Lake Ontario...some people don't even know what it is...THAT amazes me.....everyone should drive through lake effect just ONce in thrie life!! :D
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I agree, Lisa! Today I drove back from Buffalo to 100 miles north of Syracuse (home) and as Lisa knows, that route hugs Lake Erie and then Lake Ontario (for a 4 hour drive). Luckily, we only had about 20 miles to drive through lake effect. It wasn't the worst I have driven through but my parents who are in their 70's were with me and I think it scared the stuffing out of them.

For those of you who have never driven through it just put a white sheet over the windshield of your vehicle when you are driving through 2 to 6 inches of snow. You can slow down to about 15 mph but watch out for the idiots that just have to pass you! Then throw a second white sheet over your windshiled to simulate the snow they kick up as they pass you! You may wear Depends while simulating your drive through lake effect snow!:eek:
 
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I pretty much only drove east to west and back twice, today. There was some snow dust that caused the white outs, but that didn't happen too much. Roads were just a sheet of packed down snow/ice.
 
It is so nerve wracking...glad you made it safe and sound!
 
I just got home from a show 10 minutes ago, and am too wired to go to bed. The roads were awful, and what would normally be a 30 minute drive, was over an hour - both ways!:eek: :cry: I intended to be at the show at 6:15, and gave myself 15 minutes extra, and still didn't make it there until 6:45. I thought for sure the show would be canceled, but she was initially expecting 24 guests, so although some canceled, 12 actually made it. CRAZY! Sales are at $850 with 2 bookings - so in a way it was worth it - but I hated the drive! NEVER, in 5 years of PC, have I had this many issues with winter weather.

And JAE - there is a definite line of bad weather. It was horrible here, but I was driving out towards Ada, and when I got past 131, it was much better - I could actually see the roads, and didn't have the white-out conditions as much.

I think I need some chocolate to calm my nerves! I sure hope there isn't a snow day tomorrow - Micah really needs to go to school. He is getting Cabin Fever - today we painted, colored, cooked, made a blanket tent, cut out paper shapes, watched a video.....but even he was getting bored. Tomorrow we will have to go shopping just to get out of the house!
 
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I agree, Lisa! Today I drove back from Buffalo to 100 miles north of Syracuse (home) and as Lisa knows, that route hugs Lake Erie and then Lake Ontario (for a 4 hour drive). Luckily, we only had about 20 miles to drive through lake effect. It wasn't the worst I have driven through but my parents who are in their 70's were with me and I think it scared the stuffing out of them.

For those of you who have never driven through it just put a white sheet over the windshield of your vehicle when you are driving through 2 to 6 inches of snow. You can slow down to about 15 mph but watch out for the idiots that just have to pass you! Then throw a second white sheet over your windshiled to simulate the snow they kick up as they pass you! You may wear Depends while simulating your drive through lake effect snow!:eek:
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Note: To those of you who are new SUV owners...yes, your four wheel drive will start you faster and get you out of a snowbank. It might even track better in snow than my poor little old sedan.

But you can't stop any faster than I can. Go ahead and race past me. I'll wave at you, stuck in the ditch, when I drive past you in a few minutes.
 
baychef said:
I agree, Lisa! Today I drove back from Buffalo to 100 miles north of Syracuse (home) and as Lisa knows, that route hugs Lake Erie and then Lake Ontario (for a 4 hour drive). Luckily, we only had about 20 miles to drive through lake effect. It wasn't the worst I have driven through but my parents who are in their 70's were with me and I think it scared the stuffing out of them.

For those of you who have never driven through it just put a white sheet over the windshield of your vehicle when you are driving through 2 to 6 inches of snow. You can slow down to about 15 mph but watch out for the idiots that just have to pass you! Then throw a second white sheet over your windshiled to simulate the snow they kick up as they pass you! You may wear Depends while simulating your drive through lake effect snow!:eek:
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Wow! You just described my trip to and from my show tonight!:cry:
 
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Great show, Becky! You'll forget about the stressful driving soon, but you'll be loving that commission.
I'm having chocolate right now. Cherry cordial Hershey Kisses.
School really needs to happen tomorrow. Everyone has cabin fever and will be out and about anyway. I was surprised by how many people were not out and about, today. I got through Meijer checkout so quick, and I shopped at the mall for a new winter coat. Parked at the first space and no waiting for other cars while driving through the parking lot.
 
ChefBeckyD said:
I think I need some chocolate to calm my nerves!
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See, if it wasn't for all this global warming causing massive snow storms (there's irony for ya!) you wouldn't be consuming the chocolate. Yep, you can blame it on global warming.

I'm going to blame my dessert eating on it, too. While we aren't having really bad weather... ummm... what was my excuse again? Oh yeah, I need chocolate (and an extra cupcake and ice cream) because I'm so worried about all of you staying safe. See... global warming again!
 
JAE said:
Great show, Becky! You'll forget about the stressful driving soon, but you'll be loving that commission.
I'm having chocolate right now. Cherry cordial Hershey Kisses.
School really needs to happen tomorrow. Everyone has cabin fever and will be out and about anyway. I was surprised by how many people were not out and about, today. I got through Meijer checkout so quick, and I shopped at the mall for a new winter coat. Parked at the first space and no waiting for other cars while driving through the parking lot.
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That bolded statement is why any shows that hold in the next couple of weeks will be well-attended. I mentioned that at a meeting last night, and I really hope it holds true.
 
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