Here's a recap to date of this issue:
September: Emma goes to Anna's show. Orders $50+ worth to stuff, books her own show for the 25th of October. Expresses an interest in signing up. Will meet with me in 3 days. 3 days later is very excited, wants to sign up the next week when her DH gets paid. Next week comes to a meeting with Mary Grant--very excited. Ready to sign up!
October 1: Hitch in the gitalong--Emma has no ss# because she is undocumented. Calls me to sign up and says, no problem, she will use Anna's ss#. I tell her that PC would not honor that and by the way if there is ever a liability issue she would be in deep trouble because PC would be insuring Anna, not her.
Called PC and they tell me to tell her to get an ITIN--basically a taxpayer # for undocumented workers so that they can pay taxes (to which, my first thought is SURE THEY WILL). She goes down to get the ITIN and she does qualify as a dependent of someone who has a SS# (her husband), but she must show his w-2 from last year. Which of course, he has none because he gets paid under the table.
October 12: She and Anna come to the consultant meeting. Anna says to me :Why can't I sign and she just do the shows? ". To which I respond, as before, PC can't let you do that because of liability issues, and I in all honesty can't do that either. She says ok. Emma still wants to do her PC show on the 25th to get free products.
October 13: I call Emma today to give her the ingredients. She brings up the W-7 issue again (which is the form you fill out to actually GET the ITIN), but says she can't get it because her husband didn't get a W-2 last year because he got paid under the table. At that point I tell her that I don't know what else to advise her, but I would show to do her her party on the
25th.
October 13 (just now) Emma just called me back and says "Anna is thinking of signing up". Yeah, I bet she is--she can barely walk. And then Emma asks me "If Anna signs up today, can she still do my party on the 25th instead of you? You were going to do it and let me submit it, so can we just let her sign up instead?" I ask Emma "well, how is Anna going to submit the orders? She doesn't have a computer? And how is Anna going to get to the shows? She doesn't drive a car anymore (diabetes)." Of course the answer is "well, I would drive her". Oh yeah, did I mention that Emma has no driver's license either?
Clearly Anna is going to sign up and let Emma do her shows--which I can't, in all conscience, be a part of. But how do I say this? The clincher? Emma wants to know "even though I am not signing up, can I still come to the meetings (i.e. can I get training for a job I don't intend to really have?).
Ok, what to do to end this?
Nancy
September: Emma goes to Anna's show. Orders $50+ worth to stuff, books her own show for the 25th of October. Expresses an interest in signing up. Will meet with me in 3 days. 3 days later is very excited, wants to sign up the next week when her DH gets paid. Next week comes to a meeting with Mary Grant--very excited. Ready to sign up!
October 1: Hitch in the gitalong--Emma has no ss# because she is undocumented. Calls me to sign up and says, no problem, she will use Anna's ss#. I tell her that PC would not honor that and by the way if there is ever a liability issue she would be in deep trouble because PC would be insuring Anna, not her.
Called PC and they tell me to tell her to get an ITIN--basically a taxpayer # for undocumented workers so that they can pay taxes (to which, my first thought is SURE THEY WILL). She goes down to get the ITIN and she does qualify as a dependent of someone who has a SS# (her husband), but she must show his w-2 from last year. Which of course, he has none because he gets paid under the table.
October 12: She and Anna come to the consultant meeting. Anna says to me :Why can't I sign and she just do the shows? ". To which I respond, as before, PC can't let you do that because of liability issues, and I in all honesty can't do that either. She says ok. Emma still wants to do her PC show on the 25th to get free products.
October 13: I call Emma today to give her the ingredients. She brings up the W-7 issue again (which is the form you fill out to actually GET the ITIN), but says she can't get it because her husband didn't get a W-2 last year because he got paid under the table. At that point I tell her that I don't know what else to advise her, but I would show to do her her party on the
25th.
October 13 (just now) Emma just called me back and says "Anna is thinking of signing up". Yeah, I bet she is--she can barely walk. And then Emma asks me "If Anna signs up today, can she still do my party on the 25th instead of you? You were going to do it and let me submit it, so can we just let her sign up instead?" I ask Emma "well, how is Anna going to submit the orders? She doesn't have a computer? And how is Anna going to get to the shows? She doesn't drive a car anymore (diabetes)." Of course the answer is "well, I would drive her". Oh yeah, did I mention that Emma has no driver's license either?
Clearly Anna is going to sign up and let Emma do her shows--which I can't, in all conscience, be a part of. But how do I say this? The clincher? Emma wants to know "even though I am not signing up, can I still come to the meetings (i.e. can I get training for a job I don't intend to really have?).
Ok, what to do to end this?
Nancy