Leadership News Day #2 Post here........

[straitfan]

Our day 1 thread is getting kind of messy........Let's start fresh today! TIA! :)

[PamperedDor]

Great idea - and pics please if you can!! ;)

[BettieC]

Still no info on SAT for Nov? :( :( :cry:

I can't wait!! LOL

[pkd09]

I am anxious to hear about a signing promo. I have 5 on the fence.

[lauradahl]

Still no info on SAT for Nov? :( :( :cry:

I can't wait!! LOL

That's what I'm doing snooping around here. Can't wait to see what is coming after selling the top level....plus the show requirements. It's killing me!

[PamperedDor]

Its still early in Denver - we should hear this afternoon I think! I can't wait either!

[VeronicaW]

I'm bumping this! I can't wait! Can you tell?! :)

[Jessamary]

My director just called me with the SAT list...and like a dummy, I didn't write it all down!

So, it's out there...someone just needs to be smarter than I am and post it!

[merego]

I have level 3 written down that I will post but that is it.

[pckrissy]

thanks meredith!!

[merego]

Submit 2 shows
Bamboo Cracker Tray
Spicy Pineapple-Rum Sauce
Mini Baker - White

Submit $3000
Garlic Press
Square Baking Pan
Medium Bamboo Platter
Sun-Dried Tomato Herb Oil Dipping Seasoning
Bamboo Snack Bowls (4)
Pineapple Wedger
Large Bamboo Square Bowl
Small Sheet Pan
Saute Tongs
2 Quart Collapsible Bowl
Garlic Peeler

[pckrissy]

can someone refresh my memory...submit 2 shows..for July correct?

[Di_Can_Cook]

No, November.

[merego]

If you submitted your 2 Dec shows you get:
29 minutes to dinner volume 2
chip/dip plate
ginger wasabi sauce

[merego]

Lacy and Wadesgirl are keeping me and Dor updated so as we know more I will post or Dor will :)

[Kattyschack]

Thanks for doing this for us Meredith! You rock!

[lauradahl]

No, November.

Actually 2 shows Nov 1-30 and 2 shows Dec 1-31 as well to earn a new spring product.

[mdmomof3]

Thanks for the hard work you all are doing for us

[merego]

I kind of disappeared off here because I got hooked on Facebook and some of the people I talked to on here are also on FB. But I knew people would want to know and since wadesgirl and Lacey were so kind to get me the info I had to share it with fellow cheffers. I couldn't keep it all to myself :)
I am so excited!!!!! I can't wait to hear about MArch and April hostess specials and other announcements.

[lauradahl]

I kind of disappeared off here because I got hooked on Facebook and some of the people I talked to on here are also on FB. But I knew people would want to know and since wadesgirl and Lacey were so kind to get me the info I had to share it with fellow cheffers. I couldn't keep it all to myself :)
I am so excited!!!!! I can't wait to hear about MArch and April hostess specials and other announcements.

THANK YOU!:love:

[Di_Can_Cook]

Thank you, Meredith. I was truly wondering if the Dec. level posted was for both months or just that one, since they promised us "one" spring product. I am excited about the mini baker.

[pcchefjane]

Wow! Just getting your "one" product each month was great! I am anxious to find out the $1,500 level too! Is the Chip/Dip Plate bamboo as well?

[pamperedpals]

Submit 2 shows
Bamboo Cracker Tray
Spicy Pineapple-Rum Sauce
Mini Baker - White

Wahoo! Can't wait to see the $1500 level.

Thank you for all of your posting!

[chefsteph07]

Wahoo! Can't wait to see the $1500 level.

Thank you for all of your posting!


Yeah, curious about this one!

[Di_Can_Cook]

The $1500 level TYPICALLY includes the 2 shows level ... but not the Dec. SAT products.

[whiteyteresa]

Submit 2 shows
Bamboo Cracker Tray
Spicy Pineapple-Rum Sauce
Mini Baker - White


The flyer says 'Earn a New Srping Product'

Doesn't that mean 1?

Just wondering

:chef:

[merego]

Thank you, Meredith. I was truly wondering if the Dec. level posted was for both months or just that one, since they promised us "one" spring product. I am excited about the mini baker.

Sounds like we get more than 1 product for submitting 2 shows in November and December:thumbup:

[Di_Can_Cook]

Looks like the flyer was WRONG ... I was pleasantly surprised too!

[merego]

The flyer says 'Earn a New Srping Product'

Doesn't that mean 1?

Just wondering

:chef:

I thought so, but it looks like we get more than 1. :)

[VeronicaW]

Gosh, I don't remember looking up what I earned, if I did?!

[sstqman]

Question::::

I am not a very active consultant, it's in my new year to become more of one though... Anyway, I submitted a $4,000+ fundraiser and a individual order and my total commisionable sales were over $5,000. Do I and will I get one of those levels of free spring product?

Any help is appreciated....

[sstqman]

Oh.. sorry that $5,000+ was for the month of November.

[PamperedDor]

Question::::

I am not a very active consultant, it's in my new year to become more of one though... Anyway, I submitted a $4,000+ fundraiser and a individual order and my total commisionable sales were over $5,000. Do I and will I get one of those levels of free spring product?

Any help is appreciated....


You should get level 2 for your November Sales - go back to CC and check your information on your IPT and the Consulant Promos - hope that is helpful!

[sstqman]

Thanks !!!

[darlinclem]

Question::::

I am not a very active consultant, it's in my new year to become more of one though... Anyway, I submitted a $4,000+ fundraiser and a individual order and my total commisionable sales were over $5,000. Do I and will I get one of those levels of free spring product?

Any help is appreciated....

It depends on when those sales were. SAT (Sell a Thon) was for Nov and December shows. You had to have two shows in Nov. to earn the first level, 2 shows and $1500 in sales for level 2, and two shows and $3000 for lever 3, two shows and $6000 for level 4.

To earn the Dec. products you had to have two shows between Dec. 1-31st.

[darlinclem]

You should get level 2 for your November Sales - go back to CC and check your information on your IPT and the Consulant Promos - hope that is helpful!

But remember those shows had to be HELD and SUBMITTED in Nov. If you submited a Oct show in Nov it will show up on IPT with no one the wiser. It is better to check your sales reports in PPP.

[sstqman]

Thanks Darlene,

They were both submitted and held in November.

[peichef]

It depends on when those sales were. SAT (Sell a Thon) was for Nov and December shows. You had to have two shows in Nov. to earn the first level, 2 shows and $1500 in sales for level 2, and two shows and $3000 for lever 3, two shows and $6000 for level 4.

To earn the Dec. products you had to have two shows between Dec. 1-31st.

I thought that you could earn levels 2 thru 4 w/o having two shows!?! Like a $4000 fundraiser would earn you level 3.

[ChefJWarren]

$1500 Level earnings!! What are they???

[candiejayne]

i'm waiting for the $1500 level too!

[pamperedlady037@bellsouth]

I have a brunch show to do could you help me in what to cook

[straitfan]

The people who actually have the papers in their hands are all there and don't have time to type it up for us!!!! I'm dying to know too!!!

If we don't find out before then, I'll try to call my upline after school. I've printed out the list of new products so I can probably just make checkmarks as she reads it outloud to me. (Providing she's not having too much fun to answer the phone!)

[straitfan]

Those mini quiches (sp) are good, and so are the ham and cheese brunch squares. Or do a monkey bread in the fluted stone

[candiejayne]

Thanks Christy, your attempt will be appreciated!

[LeslieSGI]

Off topic but Ham and Cheese Brunch Squares are better with breakfast sausage cooked and drained in place of the ham.

[gailz2]

Can't wait to hear the $1500 level. Isn't PC great for consultants?

As far as brunch, EVERYONE loves the Ham and Cheese Squares, I love it best with lots of ham. Just made it again New Years Day.

Congrats to everyone winning lots of new PC!!

[darlinclem]

I thought that you could earn levels 2 thru 4 w/o having two shows!?! Like a $4000 fundraiser would earn you level 3.

This is the rules from the US SAT flyer:

Nov. 1-30
To earn the new product at the November two-Show level,
qualified Cooking Shows, Catalog Shows, Fundraiser Shows
and Wedding Showers must be held Nov. 1-30, and submitted
electronically by midnight CT on Nov. 30, 2008.* To earn new
spring products, all commissionable sales must be from Shows
held and individual/online orders placed Nov. 1-30 and submitted
electronically by midnight CT on Nov. 30, 2008.* Orders from
Cooking Shows, Catalog Shows, Fundraiser Shows, Wedding
Showers, individual orders, online orders and Wedding Registry
orders count toward the commissionable sales requirement.

Dec. 1-31
To earn the new product at the December two-Show level,
qualified Cooking Shows, Catalog Shows, Fundraiser Shows
and Wedding Showers must be held Dec. 1-31, and submitted
electronically by midnight CT on Dec. 31, 2008.* To earn
Pampered Chef® dollars, all commissionable sales must be from
Shows held and individual/online orders placed Dec. 1-31, and
submitted electronically by midnight CT on Dec. 31, 2008.*
Qualified Cooking Shows, Catalog Shows, Fundraiser Shows,
Wedding Showers, individual orders, online orders and Wedding
Registry orders count toward this promotion. Pampered Chef®
dollars can be used for paperwork and supplies, sample orders,
National Conference registration and more.

I'm not totally sure an individual order will count toward the second show. That said I earned the Dec SAT one year with a show and an ind. order. It is confusing to me!

[allisonserna]

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

leadership news please?!?!?

[PCJenni]

I just got a call from my director. All the rules and requirements for promoting and maintaining directorship have been changed.. for the better.. Can't wait to hear them!

[rbvernon]

I know! I so want to see pictures & to know what level 2 is for november?!?!

[StacieB]

I think there is general session this morning from 9-11 mtn time. So we should hear after a bit.

[Jessamary]

I just got a text from my director that said, "You can get money off your first recruit!!!!"

[PCJenni]

I heard the same thing. You only need 4 people to promote now!

[darlinclem]

I think there is general session this morning from 9-11 mtn time. So we should hear after a bit.

Remember they are Mountain time. ;)

[pcchefjane]

So does that mean my Recruit that signed in November...do I get commission from her sales now before I get the 2nd one?

[pamperedpals]

So does that mean my Recruit that signed in November...do I get commission from her sales now before I get the 2nd one?

I was wondering the same exact thing. I am so psyched!

[Shawnna]

I can't wait to hear more. These products have got me excited about PC again. I was getting sick of PC and actually started another DS business because it was easier to sell and I got my money right then...of course PC still has the best plan for hostesses. I make more money up front with my other business, but I have to pay for my hostess gifts and all of my supplies...nothing free from them. The parties are more fun but I think it was because I was just tired of PC. But, I'm pumped now and plan to get back on track with the new selling season.

[VeronicaW]

I heard the same thing. You only need 4 people to promote now!


REALLY????!!!!!!! :):D:balloon::sing::chef::rolleyes:

That is soooo Exciting!

[ChefChris]

Only 4 to promote to Director - did I read that right? I just signed my #4 after Christmas - I am so excited!!!!!
What else changed about Directorship? Is it still $4000 a month in sales with you and your team?
I can't wait to hear - I'm busting at the seams!!!

[janetupnorth]

Wow, I would LOVE to get commission of my recruit! That would be cool!

My recruiter is going to be ticked she quit if she finds this out! ;)

[janetupnorth]

ChefBeckyD can be a director now too - too cool!

[Fluffy215]

Janet, I thought the same thing, my recruiter quit a year ago LOL

[janetupnorth]

Janet, I thought the same thing, my recruiter quit a year ago LOL

Mine moved to NC and dropped off the face of the earth. I only knew she quit because my ED asked if I knew anything because she went inactive for the first time in 10 years. Now, my commission statement has my ED as who I'm assigned to.

Oh well, works for me...my ED was my director so that is who trains me anyway. My recruiter was just on paper, not really existent in my business.

[pckrissy]

can someone refresh my memory...submit 2 shows..for July correct?

Um LOL...omy!! I didn't realize how bad my brain is!!! That was the other SAT!
Sorry, juggling all my pc, day job, house/wife/mom stuff is really catching up with me! Kuddos to all of you who make it look effortless.....i will go torture myself for being so dumb!

[hmolah]

Wow, I deactivated for the first time in 4 years last September, so i lost my 1 recruit that I had for almost 2 years! Go figure! Well, I might piddle around with PC again. After fall's launch of products I was disappointed, not only that but I had moved my business for the 3rd time and was looking for full time work. I wouldn't mind a show here and there though. Good info to know! I'm anxious to hear how the program has changed! Times are changing, so makes sense the program would too! Thanks for the info!

[Fluffy215]

I also have just one recruit, had two but one went inactive and in a year hasn't even tried :( So now I am psyched over the one recruit thing. I can't wait to tell my recruit because about 2 months ago she asked me if she would get comission on her recruit if she did recruit and I told her no she had to have two to get that bonus and so maybe she will try harder for recruiting at least one now that she knows there is something in it for her LOL

[Jules711]

I think it's smart to give benefits quicker b/c it makes you more likely to go for it. Once you do, you do more. It's just like all of the consultants that just planned to do a few shows and quit and then stick with it :). If they want us to recruit SO badly, they really need to make changes...so glad they are!

[pamperedpals]

I think it's smart to give benefits quicker b/c it makes you more likely to go for it. Once you do, you do more. It's just like all of the consultants that just planned to do a few shows and quit and then stick with it :). If they want us to recruit SO badly, they really need to make changes...so glad they are!

I agree with you. I can't wait for all the details. :)

[pamperedpals]

ChefBeckyD can be a director now too - too cool!

I thought the same thing Janet. She sooooo deserves it!

[Kathy Huffstatler]

There were more details to being a Director now... You must have Senior Consultants (1 recruit) or Team Leaders (2 or more recruits) under you to qualify as a Director as well as $750 personal sales and $4,000 team sales. Over-rides will be paid through 4 lines. Productivity Bonus raise from $7.50 per consultant to $10.00 per consultant.

There is also a bonus of $25.00 cash incentive for each recruit at Sr. Cons and Team Leader levels and a $30.00 cash incentive for each recruit for Directors.

Also a new twist for those that don't recruit you can be a Director by maintaining $6,000/month in personal sales.


I did not get the details for Advanced Directors and above.

Hope this info is helpful and exciting to all.....

[allisonserna]

thanks!












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[Lisa2Boys]

There were more details to being a Director now... You must have Senior Consultants (1 recruit) or Team Leaders (2 or more recruits) under you to qualify as a Director as well as $750 personal sales and $4,000 team sales. Over-rides will be paid through 4 lines. Productivity Bonus raise from $7.50 per consultant to $10.00 per consultant.

There is also a bonus of $25.00 cash incentive for each recruit at Sr. Cons and Team Leader levels and a $30.00 cash incentive for each recruit for Directors.

Also a new twist for those that don't recruit you can be a Director by maintaining $6,000/month in personal sales.


I did not get the details for Advanced Directors and above.

Hope this info is helpful and exciting to all.....

So if I am reading this right, you have to have the 4 recruits to be a director AND one of your 4 recruits must have atleast 1 recruit?

[Kathy Huffstatler]

YES, that is how I heard it..... I was listening live on my phone from conference this am.

Several other details of interest: For those Directors that are not up to speed with these new qualifications, you will have a grace period until July. For all other new Directors this will go into effect in April. One more WONDERFUL detail, if you fall out of Directorship (currently know as relinquishment) you will not loose the consultants in your down line. This in itself is a MAJOR perk. It will make it much easier to recover if you have the situation arise.

[pamperedpals]

It sounds like they are restructing the entire program, not just directorship. hmm...I will definately need to read this to understand more. :)

[ChefBeckyD]

It sounds like they are restructing the entire program, not just directorship. hmm...I will definately need to read this to understand more. :)

HA! Just got off the phone with my D, who just got off the phone with my AD who is at conference.

She says there will be a tutorial on the new structure online Saturday by 1pm CST.


I AM SO SO SO SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS!!!!!

[peichef]

okay... the recruiting / slash promoting info is GREAT, but.....

I WANT THE SAT DETAILS!!!!!!!! :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::blushing:

[Jules711]

I will be interested to see the details. I'm not sure it's really right to base directorship on someone else's recruiting though. I know people that that have 10 people under them, but none have recruited. So SHE's going to lose directorship? I don't think that's right.

[ChefBeckyD]

okay... the recruiting / slash promoting info is GREAT, but.....

I WANT THE SAT DETAILS!!!!!!!! :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::blushing:

LOL - and now the SAT doesn't mean as much....because if the the Director structure has changed the way I think it has - I'll be getting the Directors Package with everything anyway!:D:D:D

[lauradahl]

I have a brunch show to do could you help me in what to cook

Ham and Cheese Brunch Squares......easy and very yummy! It shows a good amount of products too....including stoneware!!!

[pampered.chris]

I will be interested to see the details. I'm not sure it's really right to base directorship on someone else's recruiting though. I know people that that have 10 people under them, but none have recruited. So SHE's going to lose directorship? I don't think that's right.

We don't have all the details yet. There may be something in place for situations like these.

[ChefChris]

So has anyone heard of a new recruiting promotion? I would like a good one to help my downline to recruit so I can be Director.

[Di_Can_Cook]

Don't you have to be a director at the time of SAT to get the director pack?

I too don't think your status should be based on someone else's recruiting ... I hope it's an EITHER/OR kind of thing (4 recruits including one who has a recruit or 5 who don't recruit.)

[chef131doreen]

I agree with you don't have full control over yourself .and I thought that your goals may not be the same as people you bring into the business .But now they have to be . My Ad has 50 1st line but only 2 directors , thats a big chance you have to take on making one of your 1st line to recrite

[Di_Can_Cook]

There is also a bonus of $25.00 cash incentive for each recruit at Sr. Cons and Team Leader levels and a $30.00 cash incentive for each recruit for Directors.

Is this a promotion or an ongoing thing?

[ChefBeckyD]

Don't you have to be a director at the time of SAT to get the director pack?

I too don't think your status should be based on someone else's recruiting ... I hope it's an EITHER/OR kind of thing (4 recruits including one who has a recruit or 5 who don't recruit.)

When you promote, you get sent the current Director's package!

[MissChef]

I agree with you don't have full control over yourself .and I thought that your goals may not be the same as people you bring into the business .But now they have to be . My Ad has 50 1st line but only 2 directors , thats a big chance you have to take on making one of your 1st line to recrite

Yep that's what I'm thinking.... I don't have a problem controling myself I hate it when my team won't recruit...
oh well... I'm not going to freak yet... might be better than I'm expecting!

[peichef]

Don't you have to be a director at the time of SAT to get the director pack?I too don't think your status should be based on someone else's recruiting ... I hope it's an EITHER/OR kind of thing (4 recruits including one who has a recruit or 5 who don't recruit.)

The way it works presently (in Canada, anyway) is that if Directors do $1500 in sales 3/4 months listed on the SAT details (fine print) they get the director benefits kit. A consultant who does $1500 3 of those 4 months who promotes during the next selling season get the director benefits upon promoting.

[peichef]

Looks like Becky & I were typing at the same time.

[ChefBeckyD]

The way it works presently (in Canada, anyway) is that if Directors do $1500 in sales 3/4 months listed on the SAT details (fine print) they get the director benefits kit. A consultant who does $1500 3 of those 4 months who promotes during the next selling season get the director benefits upon promoting.

Same thing here - only our requirement is $1250.

[Humble Beginnings]

Sounds like we get more than 1 product for submitting 2 shows in November and December:thumbup:

So if I submitted only 1 show in November and nothing in December I don't get anything? I thought it was separate for each month.

[pampered.chris]

So if I submitted only 1 show in November and nothing in December I don't get anything? I thought it was separate for each month.

If you submit 2 shows in November you get something. Then it went on to the sales levels.

If you submit 2 shows in December, you get something else.

You don't have to submit in both months to get something the other month, but you have to submit 2 shows in one of those months to get the benefits for submitting two shows.

I can't remember if you had to have 2 shows in November for the sales levels. But that was a requirement before.

[peichef]

So if I submitted only 1 show in November and nothing in December I don't get anything? I thought it was separate for each month.

It is separate for each month. Level 1 of Nov SAT was hold & submit 2 shows to get a / some free product. The other levels are based on sales, not # of shows. Level 1 of Dec SAT was hold and submit 2 shows to get a / some free product.

If you go through some of the earlier posts, you'll see what the 2 show rewards are for Nov & Dec.

[straitfan]

If you sold at least $1,500 in that one Nov. show you get the SAT package that we're all waiting to find out the contents are....... Otherwise, no you didn't qualify for the Sell a thon. (See the guidelines someone posted much earlier in this thread.)

[Jennie4PC]

it is seperate for each month. And shows for Nov and 2 shows for Dec.

[pamperedpals]

I will be interested to see the details. I'm not sure it's really right to base directorship on someone else's recruiting though. I know people that that have 10 people under them, but none have recruited. So SHE's going to lose directorship? I don't think that's right.

Hopefully they will be grandfathered into the program or have an extended time to achieve the requirement's.

However, as someone said, we don't have all the details yet. It will be interesting though. :0

[pcchefjane]

Why don't we break off the recruiting discussion to another thread? There has been over 20 posts on this alone just speculating the changes... I want Level 1 ($1,500) news!!

[ChefBeckyD]

Just talked to my director again - and she said that our AD says that everything with recruiting and promoting is easier now! She is really excited about it, and our AD is a pretty mellow personality!

She told my D it could mean a payraise of up to 30% for my D!

[prepchef]

I'm like a stinkin' junkie :yuck: I want more information! :angel::chef::angel:

[pckrissy]

i'm like a stinkin' junkie :yuck: I want more information! :angel::chef::angel:

lol me too!! :)

[ChefChris]

I feel like I've been checking for updates for 2 days and gotten nothing else done - I'm a junkie also

[straitfan]

We're all here waiting for a dealer to give us our next hit!! LOL!

[Jessamary]

If it helps, I know with the $1500 SAT we get the white minibaker and the new garlic press.

I'm trying to remember what my director told me this morning.

OH! I do remember that the "new spring product" promotion for recruiting in Nov. is the new white DCB.

[lauradahl]

Why don't we break off the recruiting discussion to another thread? There has been over 20 posts on this alone just speculating the changes... I want Level 1 ($1,500) news!!

We all want news....may not be the same news...but this is great. One stop news shopping! Personally, I want to know all of it and I don't want to have to keep flipping back and forth to different threads. That's why the "day 1" was started...now "day 2".

Thanks to all of you posting.....I don't have any cluster mates or d's passing info yet so keep it coming.........ALL OF IT!:thumbup:

[allisonserna]

I'm trying to remember what my director told me this morning.

You weren't recording the conversation?!?!?

I would have been totally recording the call and had it on speaker phone!

LOL

[Jessamary]

You weren't recording the conversation?!?!?

I would have been totally recording the call and had it on speaker phone!

LOL

It was still early and I was only on my 2nd cup of coffee by that point. Tomorrow, I'll be prepared. :D

[Di_Can_Cook]

OK, if this helps the $1500 people:

Level 1 is the 2 shows.

Level 2 is the $1500

Level 3 is $3000
and
$6,000 is everything.

So with Level 2, you get everything Level 1 gets plus other products.

With Level 3 you get everything the $1500 people get plus other products.

So I would suggest that those who sold $1500 take a real close look at the $3000 level because your items are hidden in there ... probably several of the first items mentioned.

[jrstephens]

Why don't we break off the recruiting discussion to another thread? There has been over 20 posts on this alone just speculating the changes... I want Level 1 ($1,500) news!!

Great Idea. I think it would be easier to find information if other thread were started for the discussion and these threads for each day were just for information.:D

But this gets tried every Leadership or Conference and it always turns into discussion and then you have to scroll and scroll to find the info.:D

[chefmeg]

I must say I like coming to one thread for ALL of the info and I am grateful for those that are sending it to those that are posting it! Ya'll are great!

[ChefBeckyD]

We all want news....may not be the same news...but this is great. One stop news shopping! Personally, I want to know all of it and I don't want to have to keep flipping back and forth to different threads. That's why the "day 1" was started...now "day 2".

Thanks to all of you posting.....I don't have any cluster mates or d's passing info yet so keep it coming.........ALL OF IT!:thumbup:

Exactly! For me, the recruiting and promoting news is just as important (if not more) as the SAT levels. This is Leadership News - not just SAT levels!

[cmdtrgd]

The 2 show level is NOT included in level 2-4. You could ideally reach $6000 in sales in one show, but you still would not have the 2 show level. So, think of it as different.

OK, if this helps the $1500 people:

Level 1 is the 2 shows.

Level 2 is the $1500

Level 3 is $3000
and
$6,000 is everything.

So with Level 2, you get everything Level 1 gets plus other products.

With Level 3 you get everything the $1500 people get plus other products.

So I would suggest that those who sold $1500 take a real close look at the $3000 level because your items are hidden in there ... probably several of the first items mentioned.

[allisonserna]

are we spiting hairs here?

[pamperedpals]

Exactly! For me, the recruiting and promoting news is just as important (if not more) as the SAT levels. This is Leadership News - not just SAT levels!

I agree. I am excited about seeing how I can promote my business and myself more than the SAT stuff (even though that is a benefit :)).

I like being able to come to one location and look. All I do is hit the go to first new post button at the top of the thread and I don't have to weed through everything I have already read.

I appreciate everyone who has been posting the information for us. I thank you very much. I don't think my employer does though. he he :D

[Jessamary]

$1500 SAT....(drumroll please!)

Garlic press
Bamboo Cracker Tray
Spicy Pineapple Rum Sauce
White mini-baker
Square baking pan
Medium bamboo platter
Sun dried tomato and herb dipping oil.


December stuff (can't remember if this has been posted yet)
29 minutes to dinner 2
chip/dip plate
ginger wasabi sauce

[ckeeling]

the garlic press is listed twice, is that a mistake, should there be something else in one place?

[Jessamary]

Oh...one more thing.

Recruiting stuff. My director said in general session, everyone was super excited about the Senior Consultant and Team Leader stuff, but when they announced the new director stuff, you could cut the tension in the room with a knife.

[rbvernon]

i do have a questions..

I earned level 2; but Can I buy the bigger kit?

[Jessamary]

the garlic press is listed twice, is that a mistake, should there be something else in one place?

No...I was typing and talking to Director at the same time. Sorry!

[PamperedDor]

i do have a questions..

I earned level 2; but Can I buy the bigger kit?


YUP!!!!
and at 50% off!

[VeronicaW]

Oh wow! It's great getting this info! Thank You!
Now to comprehend it! lol

[Liquid Sky]

Oh...one more thing.

Recruiting stuff. My director said in general session, everyone was super excited about the Senior Consultant and Team Leader stuff, but when they announced the new director stuff, you could cut the tension in the room with a knife.

So, is that a bad or good tension? Makes me think the new director announcement did not go over well. Maybe I am just confused on your wording :o

[Jessamary]

Yeah, didn't go over well. Or so I hear, anyway.

[baychef]

Oh...one more thing.

Recruiting stuff. My director said in general session, everyone was super excited about the Senior Consultant and Team Leader stuff, but when they announced the new director stuff, you could cut the tension in the room with a knife.

Thanks for posting. I am interested in any changes in AD and up. I am excited with these changes because I have a team member who has been hovering with lacking one for over a year. Also I have another that is has 3 active and once she recovers from having baby #4 (she's tough!!) I am sure recruiting one more will be a cinch.

I think these changes will help us all grow our business and make advancing more attainable. I just hope I can become an AD this year!!:sing:

Not sure why they were not happy with director changes unless they are making things tougher to promote from there?

[BettieC]

What about the Nov SAT for submitting 2 shows??? I'm dying to know....lol

[ChefBeckyD]

Yeah, didn't go over well. Or so I hear, anyway.

I didn't get that at all from my AD's info.

I'll let you all know in a little while - I just missed a call from Chef Linda - and she is going to call me back - then I'll be able to give you the scoop!:D

[pcchefjane]

$1500 SAT....(drumroll please!)

Garlic press
Bamboo Cracker Tray
Spicy Pineapple Rum Sauce
White mini-baker
Square baking pan
Medium bamboo platter
Sun dried tomato and herb dipping oil.


December stuff (can't remember if this has been posted yet)
29 minutes to dinner 2
chip/dip plate
ginger wasabi sauce

Now I am confused. I thought we got the Bamboo Cracker Tray, Spicy Pineapple Rum Sauce, and the White Mini-Baker for the 2 Shows in November. Does that mean we will get double of these if we did Level 2 for SAT as well? The Sun-Dried Tomato and Herb Dipping Oil sounds yummy! If so, I may share with my new Recruit...

[ChefBeckyD]

Now I am confused. I thought we got the Bamboo Cracker Tray, Spicy Pineapple Rum Sauce, and the White Mini-Baker for the 2 Shows in November. Does that mean we will get double of these if we did Level 2 for SAT as well? The Sun-Dried Tomato and Herb Dipping Oil sounds yummy! If so, I may share with my new Recruit...


No, the levels are cumulative - so you will get level one (2 shows) plus the additional products to make up level 2 ($1500)

[pcchefjane]

Oh okay...So we got 3 for two Shows and 4 more for $1,500. So if someone did just the $1,500 one Show, would they get all 7?

[Jessamary]

I didn't get that at all from my AD's info.

I'll let you all know in a little while - I just missed a call from Chef Linda - and she is going to call me back - then I'll be able to give you the scoop!:D

My Director said that the director stuff was about the only thing not well received. ED now get a car allowance and you can be an AD with only one director.

It could also be where my D was sitting that it wasn't received well, too. Time will tell!

[Di_Can_Cook]

SO JUST TO MAKE IT CRYSTAL CLEAR WHAT EVERYBODY IS GETTING:

Submit 2 shows
Bamboo Cracker Tray
Spicy Pineapple-Rum Sauce
Mini Baker - White

SUBMIT $1500
Garlic press
Bamboo Cracker Tray
Spicy Pineapple Rum Sauce
White mini-baker
Square baking pan
Medium bamboo platter
Sun dried tomato and herb dipping oil.


Submit $3000
Garlic Press
Square Baking Pan
Medium Bamboo Platter
Sun-Dried Tomato Herb Oil Dipping Seasoning
Bamboo Snack Bowls (4)
Pineapple Wedger
Large Bamboo Square Bowl
Small Sheet Pan
Saute Tongs
2 Quart Collapsible Bowl
Garlic Peeler

2 shows (Dec.)
29 minutes to dinner 2
chip/dip plate
ginger wasabi sauce

Those of you who sold $6,000 can just count on getting everything they came out with that is not on this list.

[baychef]

My Director said that the director stuff was about the only thing not well received. ED now get a car allowance and you can be an AD with only one director.

It could also be where my D was sitting that it wasn't received well, too. Time will tell!

OMG!!! Why is this not being received well? To me, the more attainable promoting a team can be, the happier they should be. As a person that works full time (and let's face it, many of us are) I think these changes are great! This means you can show people that while other companies are laying people off, we are promoting more people than ever!

I like the car allowance for ED's too. They have to do alot of foot work to keep their teams going and keep in touch with them. Jessamary, I am loving your posts and will be watching as much as I can!!! Thanks!!!

[BethCooks4U]

SO JUST TO MAKE IT CRYSTAL CLEAR WHAT EVERYBODY IS GETTING:

Submit 2 shows
Bamboo Cracker Tray
Spicy Pineapple-Rum Sauce
Mini Baker - White

SUBMIT $1500
Garlic press
Bamboo Cracker Tray
Spicy Pineapple Rum Sauce
White mini-baker
Square baking pan
Medium bamboo platter
Sun dried tomato and herb dipping oil.


Submit $3000
Garlic Press
Square Baking Pan
Medium Bamboo Platter
Sun-Dried Tomato Herb Oil Dipping Seasoning
Bamboo Snack Bowls (4)
Pineapple Wedger
Large Bamboo Square Bowl
Small Sheet Pan
Saute Tongs
2 Quart Collapsible Bowl
Garlic Peeler

2 shows (Dec.)
29 minutes to dinner 2
chip/dip plate
ginger wasabi sauce

Those of you who sold $6,000 can just count on getting everything they came out with that is not on this list.
The White Deep Covered Baker was the recruiting promo for November so $6000 level will not get that. Also, if someone got $1500 or higher level in one show they do not get the 2 show products.

[jwpamp]

I'll tell you why it was not well received -- because you can only be a Director if you have 4 recruits AND TWO OF THEM have recruits below THEM.

I have 12 recruits under me. Only one of them has recruited. Therefore, if none of the others recruit before April 1st, I go down to a Team Leader.

A Team Leader with 12 active recruits.....hmm....not a surprise that it wasn't well received. I am not too happy right now. I will go down to 2% overrides on my sales and my consultant's sales.

The little guy is losing here and the uppers get a car allowance.

[candiejayne]

woohoo! I'm excited! thats all I need to know for now, we are having our cluster meeting in a week to go over other things! Thanks to all who passed on info, and to those posting it!

[baychef]

SO JUST TO MAKE IT CRYSTAL CLEAR WHAT EVERYBODY IS GETTING:
Thanks!!!:):):):):thumbup:

[merego]

Wadesgirls texts didn't say alot so I am kind of confused myself. Team Leaders do get HO leads now.

[rennea]

Wasn't it different in the past for the submit 2 shows? I thought that whatever was given for submitting 2 shows wasn't included in first SAT level.

[Di_Can_Cook]

I can see why it would be at least some cause for hesitation. I know a lot of directors who have 5 or more on their team, but none have recruited. So I am sure there are a lot of directors in the audience who fear they'll go into relinquishment unless they can sell $6,000 a month. A director friend of mine tries to make most of the $4000 team requirement herself.

I would hate for someone to lose their directorship based on what others do or don't do.

[rennea]

I'll tell you why it was not well received -- because you can only be a Director if you have 4 recruits AND TWO OF THEM have recruits below THEM.

I have 12 recruits under me. Only one of them has recruited. Therefore, if none of the others recruit before April 1st, I go down to a Team Leader.

A Team Leader with 12 active recruits.....hmm....not a surprise that it wasn't well received. I am not too happy right now. I will go down to 2% overrides on my sales and my consultant's sales.

The little guy is losing here and the uppers get a car allowance.

I can sure see why your not happy!

[merego]

I heard this all takes affect in April

[BethCooks4U]

I'll tell you why it was not well received -- because you can only be a Director if you have 4 recruits AND TWO OF THEM have recruits below THEM.

I have 12 recruits under me. Only one of them has recruited. Therefore, if none of the others recruit before April 1st, I go down to a Team Leader.

A Team Leader with 12 active recruits.....hmm....not a surprise that it wasn't well received. I am not too happy right now. I will go down to 2% overrides on my sales and my consultant's sales.

The little guy is losing here and the uppers get a car allowance.

I hadn't heard that it had to be two of them with recruits. Ouch. I currently only have one. And often no matter how hard we try their recruits just go away very soon. Sounds like a lot of extra pressure - especially for newer directors. I guess we should just wait until we can see the whole program before we panic.

[baychef]

I'll tell you why it was not well received -- because you can only be a Director if you have 4 recruits AND TWO OF THEM have recruits below THEM.

I have 12 recruits under me. Only one of them has recruited. Therefore, if none of the others recruit before April 1st, I go down to a Team Leader.

A Team Leader with 12 active recruits.....hmm....not a surprise that it wasn't well received. I am not too happy right now. I will go down to 2% overrides on my sales and my consultant's sales.

The little guy is losing here and the uppers get a car allowance.

NOW I get it....I knew there had to be a catch!! NO...this means that you are a director now, but because of this, you will now get less? DO NOT like that.:grumpy:

[BettieC]

Any pics yet?? :)

Also this is what you get if you submitted 2 shows in Nov?

Bamboo Cracker Tray
Spicy Pineapple-Rum Sauce
Mini Baker - White

And this for 2 shows in Dec?

29 minutes to dinner 2
chip/dip plate
ginger wasabi sauce

[merego]

also heard to stay active $150 each month instead of $200 every other month. Was it $200? whatever it was.
The director thing is interesting b/c my director has a large team, but only 1 has promoted, then she lost her directorship and his working on getting it back. So she could lose her director status if 2 of us don't get more recruits??

[baychef]

I hadn't heard that it had to be two of them with recruits. Ouch. I currently only have one. And often no matter how hard we try their recruits just go away very soon. Sounds like a lot of extra pressure - especially for newer directors. I guess we should just wait until we can see the whole program before we panic.

I agree we need more details. I am glad that we have until April. Now I hope they come out with extending the recruiting special we had this fall...letting hosts earn up to $100 off their kit (or at least $80). That would help promote recruiting.

[Di_Can_Cook]

also heard to stay active $150 each month instead of $200 every other month.

WHAT???????

Like the $150 instead of $200 .... but there are some months like this month when I just can't scrape a show together. Does this mean if I don't have a show every month I'll lose all my career sales?

[Di_Can_Cook]

I'm sure they'll announce a recruiting promo on the last day ... is that tomorrow? They usually hold a big announcement off until the last session.

[jesusluvsu2005]

From what I understand from my director is that you'd have to not make the $150 requirement for two months before you'd lose career sales.
God bless,
Amanda

WHAT???????

Like the $150 instead of $200 .... but there are some months like this month when I just can't scrape a show together. Does this mean if I don't have a show every month I'll lose all my career sales?

[Jessamary]

I'll tell you why it was not well received -- because you can only be a Director if you have 4 recruits AND TWO OF THEM have recruits below THEM.

I have 12 recruits under me. Only one of them has recruited. Therefore, if none of the others recruit before April 1st, I go down to a Team Leader.

A Team Leader with 12 active recruits.....hmm....not a surprise that it wasn't well received. I am not too happy right now. I will go down to 2% overrides on my sales and my consultant's sales.

The little guy is losing here and the uppers get a car allowance.

Thank you. I forgot to add all of that. Plus, my D said the override is 2% for team leaders, and 3% for director. I don't know if that's how it's always been, but my D is thinking it's a lot of work for not a lot of $.

She also said she could lose her team like THAT (think snapping fingers). One month, she could be a D, the next month not, the following month a D...and so on.

[merego]

WHAT???????

Like the $150 instead of $200 .... but there are some months like this month when I just can't scrape a show together. Does this mean if I don't have a show every month I'll lose all my career sales?

That is what her text said and I was like...... WHAT???????? too. I am waiting to hear more details about that one.

She said Active Status changed to $150 per month. Doesn't start until April though.

[baychef]

Thank you. I forgot to add all of that. Plus, my D said the override is 2% for team leaders, and 3% for director. I don't know if that's how it's always been, but my D is thinking it's a lot of work for not a lot of $.

She also said she could lose her team like THAT (think snapping fingers). One month, she could be a D, the next month not, the following month a D...and so on.

Well, right now a Future Director receives 1% of her sales and her 2 recruits sales. 3% for Directors right now. There are so many details such as even this $150 to remain active. We may have people go down in status right there. I do agree that $150 in sales per month still is not alot to ask. I know January is tough but I was able to get on the phone and get 3 bookings last weekend for January (I only had one on the books).

They do provide us with so much more training videos and material so as a leader, they are making us accountable for keeping everyone active. But there are 2 sides to every sword.

[jwpamp]

Also heard that Inactive Consultants who are without sales for 6 months are deleted from the system and have to repurchase the kit to start over. Used to be 12 months.

I think that it is a good timeline, if they are gone, they are gone, you know?

And yes, Jess:
"but my D is thinking it's a lot of work for not a lot of $."

I was thinking the same thing!

[baychef]

Also heard that Inactive Consultants who are without sales for 6 months are deleted from the system and have to repurchase the kit to start over. Used to be 12 months.

I think that it is a good timeline, if they are gone, they are gone, you know?

Very much agree. We have one girl who has signed up once with some consultant we did not know and twice with one of my downline. We are wondering if HO would let her purchase a 4th kit? She gave one to charity and she sent one back so it is not as if she is ripping off the system. Just can't understand why someone would do all of that and never follow through.

[BethCooks4U]

Also heard that Inactive Consultants who are without sales for 6 months are deleted from the system and have to repurchase the kit to start over. Used to be 12 months.

I think that it is a good timeline, if they are gone, they are gone, you know?

And yes, Jess:
"but my D is thinking it's a lot of work for not a lot of $."

I was thinking the same thing!

I have had several who have gone more than 6 months and then started back up. Oh, I have to stop reading all this and wait for the whole picture. Not a good feeling. So if we become team leaders we lose our production bonus and free products and 1% of our sales override (someone said TL's get HO leads). Anything else?

[baychef]

I have had several who have gone more than 6 months and then started back up. Oh, I have to stop reading all this and wait for the whole picture. Not a good feeling. So if we become team leaders we lose our production bonus and free products and 1% of our sales override (someone said TL's get HO leads). Anything else?

Ok, now I don't like that TO's will get HO leads. :grumpy: But it sounds like they are going to disappoint everyone so we might as well all be disappointed. Now I think I know why that room was so quiet.:(:thumbdown:

[jwpamp]

So if we become team leaders we lose our production bonus and free products and 1% of our sales override (someone said TL's get HO leads). Anything else?

Goodness, I hope NOT!!!!

One good thing about the 6-month thing is that if they are inactive and leave, they can RE-SIGN under you and you will get credit again sooner than now. I am hoping that they will make it a 6-month waiting time after they leave??? Who knows?

[ChefChris]

I just have a hard time with depending on your team to recruit. Some people start this business just to fill their kitchen and keep the discount - and are not interested in recruiting. Then there are others that want to do this business for a paycheck but don't even want to think of recruiting. I have 4 on my team (1 just signed 12/31) and the 3 that are active right now really haven't done a lot with their business - they stay active and have a show here and there some more than others but haven't thought about recruiting. So even after my 4th qualifies I don't have any downline that have recruits and may not want to. I really have felt very disappointed about this announcement. I can understand how it can help build our team once it is built and you have people under you that want to become more than just a consultant but to get to directorship I think is more difficult because it is not just 4 recruits but 4 recruits that are actively recruiting themselves. I hope all of this is more clear on the website at 1pm on Saturday. Feeling a little hopeless in Minnesota - it snowed again today and now this news.

[pamperedpals]

I hope CC doesn't go down with everyone logging into find out the details of this new program. :(

[Jayne]

My Director said for Team Leaders to get Home office leads you have to have 1250 in personal sales 3 of 4 months. Team Leaders also get 30% discount on personal orders vs 20%

Each new recruit you attain becomes a new line...she recruits 1 and becomes a Senior Consultant. To stay an active line they have to do 150 in sales together. So if SC does no sales and new recruit does 150 it is still an active line.

There are only direct and indirect lines now. My personal recruits are direct line and my recruits recruits are my indirect line.

Team leaders have to have $750 in personal sales and $2500 in team sales to receive over rides. Over rides are 2% on personl sales, 2% on direct line sales and 1% on indirect line. (Senior consultants get 1% over rides on personal and 1% on direct line)

You no longer loose your recruits when you go into delinquishment.:D

[baychef]

I just have a hard time with depending on your team to recruit. Some people start this business just to fill their kitchen and keep the discount - and are not interested in recruiting. Then there are others that want to do this business for a paycheck but don't even want to think of recruiting. I have 4 on my team (1 just signed 12/31) and the 3 that are active right now really haven't done a lot with their business - they stay active and have a show here and there some more than others but haven't thought about recruiting. So even after my 4th qualifies I don't have any downline that have recruits and may not want to. I really have felt very disappointed about this announcement. I can understand how it can help build our team once it is built and you have people under you that want to become more than just a consultant but to get to directorship I think is more difficult because it is not just 4 recruits but 4 recruits that are actively recruiting themselves. I hope all of this is more clear on the website at 1pm on Saturday. Feeling a little hopeless in Minnesota - it snowed again today and now this news.

I can understand. At first it sounded like they were going to make it easier, but now as details emerge, it does not sound that way at all. For me, I will remain a director but can see now that I will have to work with my team much tighter to keep their team members active. Like you say, there are some that just want to sell. Boy, there is a lot to think about, but please don't worry right now. We still have to see the details and we still have to until April to get our downlines excited. It may be more attractive for them to recruit because they stand to gain income even with their first recruit. So we need to find that silver lining. And the snow...I love it...send it please!

[Get_Pampered]

I just finished reading all of this and am wondering...is our company heavy in the number of Directors we have? In other words, are there "too many" at the Director level? :confused: Maybe they find people get "stuck" at that level and want to try to fix that? I really don't know what I am talking about...just a thought that crossed my mind. I have been so amazed by each director I have met that, if any of you did get a bump down, I think it would be very temporary!:p

[cookn' katie]

Now I just got off the phone with my director, she is sooo excited about the new plan. She said that she is more excited about PC than she has been in years. She said that the new plan will get rid of alot of directors who aren't pulling their weight. She also sees herself and us making more money. I am not going to get to worried about this until I see the big picture tomorrow. This company is always looking out for us and I know they always will. Lets not get our panties in a bunch until we get the full story! Katie

[priscilla]

But if I read this all correctly, Team Leaders/Future Directors will get some great benefits...HO leads, still get the override on your recruits and it starts with one recruit rather than two. So, you may still have to rely on your team recruiting to get Directorship OR sell more yourself (no reliance on anyone else), but you get more advantages under this systme than the old one if you have recruits that do not recruit.

I am glad. I have never been able to get more than two active recruits at once, and I am ecstatic that I can obtain directorship entirely on my own if I work hard for it. Also, I am glad they are spreading the wealth with regards to HO leads. That in itself can be a big boon to building a team and getting the sales needed to be a director.

Robin

[baychef]

Now I just got off the phone with my director, she is sooo excited about the new plan. She said that she is more excited about PC than she has been in years. She said that the new plan will get rid of alot of directors who aren't pulling their weight. She also sees herself and us making more money. I am not going to get to worried about this until I see the big picture tomorrow. This company is always looking out for us and I know they always will. Lets not get our panties in a bunch until we get the full story! Katie

LOL!!! Thanks for the post! I prefer to put my Big Girl Panties on...it is so much more comfortable than have them in a bunch!

I am glad to hear some one excited about it!

[PampMomof3]

My SD is also really excited about it!!

[raebates]

This is why, while it's great to get news from those attending, I don't get too up in arms until I see the official stuff from HO. I know that when I hear something it's easy for me to react emotionally and miss some of the details. Try to remember that we're getting everything at least second-hand and sometimes third- or fourth- hand. There are bound to be those that aren't happy with the new rules and some who love them. Everything will be much clearer when the HO posts the changes.

Same goes for the new products. I'm very grateful to those who have posted the products and the SAT levels. I won't start making plans for anything, though, until I see the list from the HO.

Just my humble opinion.

[baychef]

But if I read this all correctly, Team Leaders/Future Directors will get some great benefits...HO leads, still get the override on your recruits and it starts with one recruit rather than two. So, you may still have to rely on your team recruiting to get Directorship OR sell more yourself (no reliance on anyone else), but you get more advantages under this systme than the old one if you have recruits that do not recruit.

I am glad. I have never been able to get more than two active recruits at once, and I am ecstatic that I can obtain directorship entirely on my own if I work hard for it. Also, I am glad they are spreading the wealth with regards to HO leads. That in itself can be a big boon to building a team and getting the sales needed to be a director.

Robin

This is true, however, the more consultants that have access, the thinner the pool will be for everyone. (not saying that sharing is bad...but am saying that this will not be much to boost your business). HO leads are good but I have had about 50% of the leads turn out to be dead ends. Now that percentage will go down. One HO lead was a consultant in a different state wanting to see how close a consultant was to her parents. Another was a guy who lended pictures to some consultant that lives over 60 miles from me, only had a first name and wanted to get his pictures back. I haven't gotten an HO lead for over a month now so sharing them even more will not make it any easier for anyone to grow a business.

[Jules711]

If they only get the leads if they have $1250 or more in 3 of 4 months, I think it's fair for them to get leads. After all, they ARE working there business. There are directors who don't even do that, yet THEY get leads. MAYBE they really do a lot with their downline, but MANY directors lack in that area as well.

I am happy that they are rewarding those that aren't to the director stage. I'll wait to see specifics for director changes. After all, it TOs get some of the now director benefits, then maybe even if you go down a level, your benefits don't change as much as we think? Here's hoping!!!

[DeeDee616]

Any news on what SA prodcuts are coming out if any?
And yesterday someone only posted like 3 items that are gonna be discontinued? Is that really it only 3?

[BettieC]

Any news on what SA prodcuts are coming out if any?
And yesterday someone only posted like 3 items that are gonna be discontinued? Is that really it only 3?

It's 5 items.

[baychef]

Great point. I do agree that there must be some directors out there that are just hanging on all the time and can recruit but can not get their downline excited enough to recruit.

I really think with the incentive of earning more with just one recruit, that this will help some get over the fear of asking. Right now when a consultant has one recruit, they get no extra income so fear of losing that income may overcome the fear to invite more! So far I see this a helping even current directors retain their director level.

[Jayne]

My Director said for Team Leaders to get Home office leads you have to have 1250 in personal sales 3 of 4 months. Team Leaders also get 30% discount on personal orders vs 20%

Each new recruit you attain becomes a new line...she recruits 1 and becomes a Senior Consultant. To stay an active line they have to do 150 in sales together. So if SC does no sales and new recruit does 150 it is still an active line.

There are only direct and indirect lines now. My personal recruits are direct line and my recruits recruits are my indirect line.

Team leaders have to have $750 in personal sales and $2500 in team sales to receive over rides. Over rides are 2% on personl sales, 2% on direct line sales and 1% on indirect line. (Senior consultants get 1% over rides on personal and 1% on direct line)

You no longer loose your recruits when you go into delinquishment.:D

Oh yeah, I forgot...you don't loose your career sales unless you don't get sales for 2 months. And Directors have till July to get consultants to recruit.

[jwpamp]

If I go from Director Level to a Team Leader level (because only one of my 12 recruits has recruits), I will go from:

-- 3% personal override on $4000 in personal sales(approx $120 a month) to 2% override (approx $80 a month)

-- 3% on my first line (which includes 2 who were recruited by one of my recruits) which on a $4000 / month average will decrease my income from $120 per month @<hidden email>% to $80 @<hidden email> 2%

-- then, because one of my recruit's recruits is now considered my "indirect recruit" I will go from 3% of her sales to 1%.....she usually sells $3000/month. That make my override from her go from $90 /month to $30 /month.

In total, on an average month, I will lose approx. $140/month. To do the same job I am doing now.

I really hope that this information we are getting from those at Leadership is incorrect.

[BethCooks4U]

If they only get the leads if they have $1250 or more in 3 of 4 months, I think it's fair for them to get leads. After all, they ARE working there business. There are directors who don't even do that, yet THEY get leads. MAYBE they really do a lot with their downline, but MANY directors lack in that area as well.

I am happy that they are rewarding those that aren't to the director stage. I'll wait to see specifics for director changes. After all, it TOs get some of the now director benefits, then maybe even if you go down a level, your benefits don't change as much as we think? Here's hoping!!!

Untrue. Directors have to have $1250 in sales in 3 of the last 4 months to get leads. If they aren't working their business they are not getting leads.

[Get_Pampered]

If I go from Director Level to a Team Leader level (because only one of my 12 recruits has recruits), I will go from:

-- 3% personal override on $4000 in personal sales(approx $120 a month) to 2% override (approx $80 a month)

-- 3% on my first line (which includes 2 who were recruited by one of my recruits) which on a $4000 / month average will decrease my income from $120 per month @<hidden email>% to $80 @<hidden email> 2%

-- then, because one of my recruit's recruits is now considered my "indirect recruit" I will go from 3% of her sales to 1%.....she usually sells $3000/month. That make my override from her go from $90 /month to $30 /month.

In total, on an average month, I will lose approx. $140/month. To do the same job I am doing now.

I really hope that this information we are getting from those at Leadership is incorrect.

It may not even come to that. Here's why, I'm positive that at least several of your 11 recruits that haven't recruited, will do so now. Several of them are bound to want the commission increase that is so close to their fingertips! And, we all have until April to get where we want to be so you might not even see a blurp on the radar come April (or you may see an INCREASE!). Hang in there :)

[jwpamp]

I have been a Director. In every sense of the word. I work with my consultant's weekly. Do more than I probably need to for them. I am here at the drop of a hat to answer questions, provide support and more.

I also consistantly have had $50,000+ in sales every year since I started 3 years ago. I have recruited 28 in my career and have earned every trip since my first year.

I do work as a Director.

I don't feel that every consultant starts with this company to recruit. I don't want to push someone to do something that they don't want to do.

[BethCooks4U]

I have SEVERAL on my team who tell me they want and are trying to recruit. We train, they seem to get it, but no recruits. Part of it is that they are having trouble filling their personal show calendar too. You can't squeeze blood out of turnups.

I work hard as a director - on my business, training and supporting my team, etc. I am insulted that I would be considered dead weight because currently I only have one with recruits. When I started my business (5 personal recruits) I started with 10 on my team because of downline recruits so it's not like I don't and haven't always promoted recruiting with my downline.


Here's the thing. The new system sounds great for those who are not now directors and for upper level directors. It's those of us who are just directors with no superstars on our teams that will be hurt. The good thing for us is that we don't lose EVERYTHING, the bad thing is some may lose it because of the changes. You can't force someone to recruit just like you can't force a host to have a show.

[baychef]

Janice, I agree with Get Pampered. I REALLY think that you will be able to get one or more ready to recruit. Especially if they are giving us until July. By pure coincidence, I am starting a step up program next week and I am hoping that this extra income that someone with just one recruit will get someone to come out of their shell.

If they are not into growing a big team but want to pay the bills, this will give them a "buddy" to pal up with. Maybe that is wishing too hard, but I really like giving someone that money incentive to get out there and recruit a little.

Being in PC for almost 9 years now, they usually give us good tools to help us get to a new achievement so I think we have more announcements to look forward to tomorrow to help us either retain our director level and for others to start looking at recruiting as less of a monster than it is.

[jmsabby]

Wow! Lots of info to get over text messages and quick phone calls. I am sure everything will be fine. As someone previously said, PC has always been good to it's consultants and I am sure that nothing will change. There is no way to make changes and please everyone. But I agree that for those of us who need our consultants to start recruiting, the earning money off of your first recruit will be a MAJOR motivator. Can't wait to get all of the details.

[Ish]

Also heard that Inactive Consultants who are without sales for 6 months are deleted from the system and have to repurchase the kit to start over. Used to be 12 months.

I think that it is a good timeline, if they are gone, they are gone, you know?

And yes, Jess:
"but my D is thinking it's a lot of work for not a lot of $."

I was thinking the same thing!


HMMM...the 6 months scares me... as one who had to take medical leave I was out for a little over 4 months and another 2 to get back in the swing of things... sometimes 6 months is just not quite enough...

[baychef]

Janice and Beth are directors that I for one, look up to and I really don't think it was intended that you were to be considered in the dead beat catagory at all.
Janice and Beth do many of the director duties many times over. Just the fact that you both have the number of team member that you do speaks to that accomplishment. I have no doubt in my mind that these ladies are A#1 directors with some of the posts, suggestions,etc. that they both have contibuted.

I think that this change is not to shake the dead beats out but rather to help sweeten the pot for consultants to recruit. In that sense, we will all be winners. Our teams will grow stronger. Perhaps the company saw that there were many more of us that have grown long but not deep. Growing a team long AND deep will keep us successful for years to come.

[merego]

From what I understand from my director is that you'd have to not make the $150 requirement for two months before you'd lose career sales.
God bless,
Amanda

that doesn't make sense?? Why change the policy, maybe I am confused:confused::confused:

[tabnat80]

I don't like this at all. When I was preggy with ds, i was extremely sick and couldn't do any shows. I was inactive for 9 months before I held another show.


Also heard that Inactive Consultants who are without sales for 6 months are deleted from the system and have to repurchase the kit to start over. Used to be 12 months.

I think that it is a good timeline, if they are gone, they are gone, you know?

And yes, Jess:
"but my D is thinking it's a lot of work for not a lot of $."

I was thinking the same thing!

[Di_Can_Cook]

I have no aspirations to promote on ANY LEVEL and am not really fazed by this stuff personally. On the other hand, I do think it has the POTENTIAL to hurt hard-working directors like Janice, but I too want to see all the details in print before I judge.

I'm REALLY confused about what it means to be inactive. So you don't lose your career sales unless you don't submit $150 in two months? Say I have a show in December but nothing in January, does that mean I'm inactive but don't lose my career sales until Feb? That makes no sense ... another reason I want to see details in black and white ...

[jwpamp]

One thing about that is you can re-sign (yes, you would have to buy a new kit), but you can recoup it by taking advantage of a recruiting incentive at that time.

I think that there should be something about the time starting after your 3-month medical waiver in cases of medical issues....that would probably help in cases like yours. I don't know why they are changing it -- it's not like it takes any $$ out of their pocket for you being inactive??

[cookn' katie]

Thank you Ann!!! My director said that they really want us to go deeper. I think in the long run this will help everyone. And when I said that about "dead beats" I didn't say it to upset anyone. But~ We all know that there are many directors out there just hanging on by a string, milking the system for as long as they can. Last year at NC, A director in our cluster even stated that she didn't want one of her recruits to become a director because she would lose her directorship. There is something wrong with the system when she was only a director because her one "good" recruit kept her active. I think this is so much more exciting than the products this time!!

[Jennie4PC]

I know some people arent excited about TL getting HO leads, I am actually happy about that for the main reason that were I live there is no director in my area and all the leads have been going over 250 miles away. I know I need 1 more recruit to become a TL it looks like but I do have one signing end of Jan.

[babywings76]

I hate to sound dumb, but I haven't heard the term Team Leader before today. I don't think I read about that in the P&P, have I missed something? I feel kind of lost as to how a lot of these things work. I hope after the new rules and stuff come out there will be a way for me to figure out how the company is organized.

[elizabethfox]

No use worrying about stuff until we get the offical info from HO. We are just getting all of this through the grapevine. People could be mistaken.

IF the $150 in sales each month thing is true then that will stink, just because there are some months I take off or I only book one or two shows and if for some reason they fall through I am at risk of being inactive. I like the $200 every two months soooo much better....but we shall see what actually is going on after leadership is over.

Hang in their people.

[lauradahl]

I hate to sound dumb, but I haven't heard the term Team Leader before today. I don't think I read about that in the P&P, have I missed something? I feel kind of lost as to how a lot of these things work. I hope after the new rules and stuff come out there will be a way for me to figure out how the company is organized.

We're all just hearing about this new terminology....if you get time, ready thru some of the previous posts on this thread. It mentions a little of how the new structure is gonna work. I am hoping to read more soon and understand it all myself. I'm not taking anything here too close to heart. Just soaking it in a little and can't wait to get the official from HO.

[PamperedDor]

I cant wait to see this all in writing - the posts have totally confused me - (not that thats not easy to do!:) ) I am totally lost!

Worst is I don't go to my cluster meetings anymore because I dislike my director and everything she stands for - I need one of our CS girls to explain it all to me -

[jwpamp]

Guess we'll just have to wait and see....I sure hope there is a REALLY good new recruit promo announced tomorrow!

[jbdowd0798]

LOL!!! Thanks for the post! I prefer to put my Big Girl Panties on...it is so much more comfortable than have them in a bunch!

I am glad to hear some one excited about it!

LOL- I was thinking the same thing. My Director is REALLY PUMPED and she texted me twice. Once to say I was getting a raise (ha ha) and the other that there were lots of cool things coming out. So all my info is here but I'll wait to get the whole picture then start asking questions. Too confusing right now.

[prepchef]

Those of you that have been with the company for any length of time know that this company takes care of its consultants. They do NOT do ANYTHING without thinking, researching, and testing...and that applies to ALL their products. Because what is the best product...the opportunity!

So for them to be changing the structure, I believe, is for all our benefit (and the shareholders too :smirk:). Those directors who are concerned after reading these posts, need to wait and read it for themselves. What I am sure they will find is that the company has made it easier and more profitable for them, overall. If you haven't been able to get people to recruit, you probably will be able to now. And if you want to sell your heart out, you can still be a director, soley based on sales.

Change is tough. And people infuse their own meaning into written words in these forums. So lets just take a deep breath, drink a margarita and think of the successes we are all going to have in 2009! Remember to tell yourself "Success is Mine in 2009!

[straitfan]

Well put! Take a bow Rich.

Now................. off to get that Margarita! :D

[Jayne]

I'll have Strawberry swirl with salt on the rim please...:D

[lauradahl]

I'll have Strawberry swirl with salt on the rim please...:D

Excuse me...is this seat taken? Hi, how ya doin'. I'll have the
Classic Lime....blended....with salt please.

Oh, what a day....so what's the "new" news here at the end of day 2?:cool:

[jwpamp]

Well, Day 2 is always "change" news day at the Conferences. I have gone to enough of them to know that....it will get better tomorrow -- recruiting incentive time!

[kam]

Also heard that Inactive Consultants who are without sales for 6 months are deleted from the system and have to repurchase the kit to start over. Used to be 12 months.

Does this mean it will only be 6 months Inactive and then you could sign with someone else? I know I have seen many discussions on here about consultants wanting to re-sign with someone else and had to wait a year. Does the waiting period now go to 6 months?

[jwpamp]

Haven't seen that yet -- we'll have to wait and see.

[ChefChris]

I did get to talk with my Director this evening about the change in the Director Program and she said that the HO researched this for 2 years and wanted the best for us. I can't wait for 1pm on Saturday to see the whole thing laid out. She said that I knew the info but to wait til I get to see it all put together.

Also something she told me that I haven't read here is that a brand new person who signs up no longer needs to "qualify" with 4 shows or $1250 in sales - they submit their first show ($150 minimum) and they are active. The incentives of PC Dollars are still there with 30 and 90 days but no more "Qualifying". And then as the recruiter you reap rewards right away. This is good for new people to give this business a try.

I can't wait for what happens tomorrow.

[dtawalker4]

I just wanted to say that this is a HUGE change, but overall it is going to be a good thing. They are making it easier for all levels to promote. Just taking out the "qualifying" aspect of it is huge. To be an Advanced Director now, you only have to have one director under you.

[baychef]

Just getting back on tonight too can not wait to see what's happening for sure!!! We may have some celebrating to do on my team!!!

Prepchef is so right. PC is behind us. I was disappointed this past year with the trip incentive points, but I think now that it may be much better than I thought.

Unfortunately, I was never able to attend Leadership, but as with NC...excitement is always in the air when the announcements are made!

Can't wait to get the low down on all of the details!!!!:love:

[pcsharon1]

For me being a TL and getting HO leads would be great for one main reason. We are military and move every 2-3 years. Move to a completely new place where I don't know anyone. A HO lead during those first few months could be crucial to me getting my business back up and running - something I obviously do after having been through four moves while doing PC.

As for being inactive more than six months - I was inactive until right up before my 12 month mark when we moved overseas. I personally would have preferred to have been taken off HO register and signed back up under someone who payed attention to me rather than being ignored because I was a distant consulant. And I could have taken advantage of the Super Starter program. I think that is fantastic and I really believe that 90% of consulants who have been inactive for at least six months aren't going to become active again. I had already lost career sales so the only thing that would have been different for me would have been having a new consultant number - and I really like mine, Thank you!;)

[pkd09]

I am mixed about this new change but want to reserve my thoughts until I have all the information from HO. But if what I am reading is true about TL getting HO leads will be great for me. My Director has been in a slack the entire 2008 year. Our cluster is shrinking because she is not getting HO leads. So if this is true, they would come to me. This will help grow my team to become the Director (and above) I dream of becoming.

[Di_Can_Cook]

If your director is not getting leads and she is still a director ... how come you would get them? Is it that she is not eligable or there's just no leads to be had?

[ChefBeckyD]

If your director is not getting leads and she is still a director ... how come you would get them? Is it that she is not eligable or there's just no leads to be had?

She probably isn't meeting the $1250 in sales to get the leads.

You have to have $750 in sales to keep your director status, but $1250 to be in the Lead pool.

Now, TL who maintain the sales requirement would also be eligible for leads.

[pcROX]

As a Director, she would still have to have $1250 two out of the three previous months, so her director might not be qualifying for the leads.

[Sophie's Cookin]

I hate to sound dumb, but I haven't heard the term Team Leader before today. I don't think I read about that in the P&P, have I missed something? I feel kind of lost as to how a lot of these things work. I hope after the new rules and stuff come out there will be a way for me to figure out how the company is organized.

I was talking with my sister because the business she is in has team leaders and she showed me the pay plan and structure. If it is like theirs we are all going to be happy campers. But we will see if it is similar.

[babywings76]

I was talking with my sister because the business she is in has team leaders and she showed me the pay plan and structure. If it is like theirs we are all going to be happy campers. But we will see if it is similar.

A few people have posted on here though saying that they are TL's, and that's why I'm confused...is it a current title that I'm not aware of?

[Kattyschack]

A few people have posted on here though saying that they are TL's, and that's why I'm confused...is it a current title that I'm not aware of?

You are not the only one. I have noticed it a lot lately and thought I missed something. Would love to know what they mean by Team Leader?

[twinkie10]

My Director said for Team Leaders to get Home office leads you have to have 1250 in personal sales 3 of 4 months.

They also have had to of recruited on consultant in that time period, too!

[priscilla]

They also have had to of recruited on consultant in that time period, too!

Where did you find this?

Robin

[Kathy's_Kitchen]

You are not the only one. I have noticed it a lot lately and thought I missed something. Would love to know what they mean by Team Leader?

Team Leader is the new title that will replace the Future Director title under the new plan.

[candiejayne]

it was in the video

[priscilla]

it was in the video

Yep, you are right. Must recruit to keep getting leads, but have until July 1st I think to make that requirement.

Robin

[twinkie10]

Where did you find this?

Robin

It was in the video on the website.

[babywings76]

A few people have posted on here though saying that they are TL's, and that's why I'm confused...is it a current title that I'm not aware of?

Okay, so after seeing the video I get it. I just was confused because people were using the term and we didn't even have the info yet. ;)

[lauriesdoor]

I can't wait to hear more. These products have got me excited about PC again. I was getting sick of PC and actually started another DS business because it was easier to sell and I got my money right then...of course PC still has the best plan for hostesses. I make more money up front with my other business, but I have to pay for my hostess gifts and all of my supplies...nothing free from them. The parties are more fun but I think it was because I was just tired of PC. But, I'm pumped now and plan to get back on track with the new selling season.

I haven't looked at my rules & such in a while. I remember something from a few years ago that said you couldn't work for another DS company while working with PC. don't know how they would find out....Has that changed?
I have thought about others, but never did anything about it I'm still doing PC, but barely. Just curious.

[turtle15]

I haven't looked at my rules & such in a while. I remember something from a few years ago that said you couldn't work for another DS company while working with PC. don't know how they would find out....Has that changed?
I have thought about others, but never did anything about it I'm still doing PC, but barely. Just curious.


My Director signed me knowing that I did, so I would be very curious to know the answer to this!

[Kattyschack]

I thought I have seen people on here post that it was ok until you became director. I could be wrong though.

[pampered.chris]

Under the current structure it is alright until you promote to Director. I am not sure what the rules will be once the new structure comes into play. I am curious to know as well b/c I also have another DS company, but it is really just so my friends and I have someone we know as a consultant as our consultant resigned.

But I am sure I can find another friend to "pick it up" for me!!

I am super excited about this new plan. I think it makes it so much MORE attainable to get to the different levels and also will help w/ the frightening aspects of recruiting!!

[lacychef]

Everyone...this is very exciting! And take it from someone who was there...I'm sure there were some mixed feelings around the room, but for the most part---people were EXCITED! We then had a workshop tied in with lunch, and you were assigned by rank. (all FD were together, etc) We went into this in more detail. This is so awesome because you can get paid deeper in your lines...and yes as a director you need to encourage you recruits to recruit...but that's part of the job anyway. You can never lose your team too! And you're guaranteed your title for 3 months, so if you don't meet the requirement one mont, then you get paid for the level which you did meet. I'm sure if you all go to your next cluster meetings you'll be talking about this. The great thing is, it doesn't go into effect unti April, and you have 3 months after that....so plenty of time to get your ducks in a row. And, basically, everyone gets a raise. If we remembered correctly, one example for a director comparing plans, it was a 61% increase! And, for the first few months, they will compare old vs. new plan, and pay you the higher amount!
My group was so excited...my AD didn't even care about the products anymore...that's how big this is:) Jean had a fabulous speech on day 3 that was all about attitude. I wish that would be available to watch on CC....if you have a positive attitude about something, then it'll be great. If you've got a negative attitude...it'll be bad.

[candiejayne]

This doesn't affect me now since I don't have any recruits, but it does incourage me to try harder for my own personal gain. I do think that the directors worried now may see a change in their downlines attitude about recruiting. We'll have to see what happens, but I'm sure a lot of your worries will work out for the best! I'm sorry that many of you feel scared for your business though, I'm sure that was not the intentions of PC at all!

[babywings76]

Everyone...this is very exciting! And take it from someone who was there...I'm sure there were some mixed feelings around the room, but for the most part---people were EXCITED! We then had a workshop tied in with lunch, and you were assigned by rank. (all FD were together, etc) We went into this in more detail. This is so awesome because you can get paid deeper in your lines...and yes as a director you need to encourage you recruits to recruit...but that's part of the job anyway. You can never lose your team too! And you're guaranteed your title for 3 months, so if you don't meet the requirement one mont, then you get paid for the level which you did meet. I'm sure if you all go to your next cluster meetings you'll be talking about this. The great thing is, it doesn't go into effect unti April, and you have 3 months after that....so plenty of time to get your ducks in a row. And, basically, everyone gets a raise. If we remembered correctly, one example for a director comparing plans, it was a 61% increase! And, for the first few months, they will compare old vs. new plan, and pay you the higher amount!
My group was so excited...my AD didn't even care about the products anymore...that's how big this is:) Jean had a fabulous speech on day 3 that was all about attitude. I wish that would be available to watch on CC....if you have a positive attitude about something, then it'll be great. If you've got a negative attitude...it'll be bad.

People feed off of the emotions of others. If leaders are pessimistic, then others will feel like things will be impossible, and it'll be hard to inspire people to grow. If you are excited and find the good, then most people will respond positively and they will pick up on the positive attitude!

[straitfan]

Thanks for your input Lacy. A lot of people around here had some big concerns about the restructure.

I know when I talked to Sheila about it a couple of times she was really pumped up and motivated. I think that this will encourage SOME directors --just talking about the ones I know....not anyone here! :) --to HELP their downlines more.

I also like the fact that we're accountable to the person who recruited us more than some stranger that just happened to above your recruiter (KWIM?) I think I'll be more motivated to work to help that person succeed! (Lots of reading between the lines there...isn't there?

[DebbieJ]

I thought that you could earn levels 2 thru 4 w/o having two shows!?! Like a $4000 fundraiser would earn you level 3.

In the past, if you didn't do two shows (the first level), you don't get anything. We'll have to double check on that this time around.

[DebbieJ]

I will be interested to see the details. I'm not sure it's really right to base directorship on someone else's recruiting though. I know people that that have 10 people under them, but none have recruited. So SHE's going to lose directorship? I don't think that's right.

yes it is right. It is her job to teach and coach her team to recruit. And if she's not doing that, she's not doing her job IMHO.

[BethCooks4U]

No, if you don't do two shows (the first level), you don't get anything.

Are you sure Debbie? I always thought if you did it in 1 show you you just didn't get the 2 show part of it.

[DebbieJ]

I have been a Director. In every sense of the word. I work with my consultant's weekly. Do more than I probably need to for them. I am here at the drop of a hat to answer questions, provide support and more.

I also consistantly have had $50,000+ in sales every year since I started 3 years ago. I have recruited 28 in my career and have earned every trip since my first year.

I do work as a Director.

I don't feel that every consultant starts with this company to recruit. I don't want to push someone to do something that they don't want to do.

Janice, you need to have a conversation with Amy Neal. Is she your Sales Manager? She will totally change your perspective on this.

[DebbieJ]

Are you sure Debbie? I always thought if you did it in 1 show you you just didn't get the 2 show part of it.

I was just coming back to edit it because now I'm not sure. You didn't used to get the other levels if you didn't get the first level....have to look at the fine print again.

So don't take my word as gospel on that one. :)

[crystalscookingnow]

The two shows part is separate. If you do 1500 in one show & nothing else, then you get the products in the 1500 level, but not the two shows level. Same the rest of the way up

[jwpamp]

RE; Working with another ds company while you are with PC:

I thought I have seen people on here post that it was ok until you became director. I could be wrong though.

Yes, as it is now, you can work with another direct sales company until you sign the Director's Agreement. You just have to keep the businesses seperate -- that is in the contract we sign as new consultants.

Not sure how this rule will change with the new titles. You can relinquish to a FD if you wanted to now, to work with another company.

Wonder if they will have all new consultants sign agreements that state we can't work with any other direct sales companies or just not sign them at all?

You could be a Team Leader one month and an Advanced Director the next, then back depending on your team's sales and recruiting...may be hard to keep track of... I am sure that there will be more info to come.