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This thread centers around a participant's experience of losing their job and the subsequent challenges they face with unemployment claims. Participants express empathy and share personal experiences related to job loss and navigating unemployment systems.

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  • One participant shares their frustration about being fired after taking leave to help family, and their former employer's claim that they never worked there.
  • Another participant expresses sympathy and offers emotional support, emphasizing the importance of staying strong during difficult times.
  • Several users mention the unfairness of employers denying unemployment claims and share personal anecdotes about similar situations.
  • One participant identifies as having gone through a similar process and encourages the original poster to persist with their unemployment claim, sharing a positive outcome from their own experience.
  • Another participant highlights the importance of having proof of employment, such as pay stubs, to support claims against the employer's statements.

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Views differ on the best approach to take regarding unemployment claims, with some participants sharing personal success stories while others focus on emotional support. No clear consensus emerges on a specific course of action.

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The discussion reflects the emotional and financial stress associated with job loss and navigating unemployment benefits, particularly in the context of supporting family members.

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Participants in similar situations of job loss or those navigating unemployment claims may find the shared experiences and emotional support relevant.

Kitchen Diva
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I need to vent, then I need a shoulder to cry on!

As you all know (or may not know) I lost my job after my boss told me to take 2 weeks off to get my sister and niece settled in- once they moved in with us due to a family crisis. The day I was supposed to go back, they hadn't called me back to tell me what hours I would be working. It wasn't until 3 days later that I got an email (yes, an email) saying that they no longer had any hours for me. About a week before that my boss stopped taking my calls and answering my update emails, and all communications had to go through the new supervisor they hired while I was gone (they fired mine while I was out on my mini-leave)

So I filed for unemployment. I'm not proud of it, but I was fired, and have not been able to find another suitable job that meets my scheduling requirements. And get this... My FORMER employer told Unemployment that I NEVER worked there!

I am so hopping mad I could spit! Every fiber in my being is screaming out to get a lawyer, but I'm waiting it out. I sent Unemployment proof (again) that I worked for this company, so we'll see what happens. If anything it has just delayed things another month- so I filed in early March and was supposed to have my answer yesterday as to if I was approved for unemp or not. I now won't know for a while. I'm upset.

DH said he doesn't know how we will pay the bills on the 15th. Having my sister and her daughter to provide for has really taken it's toll on us financially. We are paying for some of her bills, gas, food, the additional water and electricity, clothing, medicine, other basic needs, etc... I was really counting on this unemployment check to come this week so I could relax while I'm searching for a new job... I just want to cry!:cry: :cry:
 
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I'm so sorry about this. I wish I could snap my fingers and fix the situation.
I'll definitely be praying for you. I know how hard and stressful this time is for you. Keep your head up. Soon, you'll find a light at the end of the tunnel. (I can see my light, but it's a foggy tunnel. ;) )
Something good will come from this and unfortunately you don't know yet what it is, but you will. Just stay strong.
 
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I'm so sorry about this. I wish I could snap my fingers and fix the situation.
I'll definitely be praying for you. I know how hard and stressful this time is for you. Keep your head up. Soon, you'll find a light at the end of the tunnel. (I can see my light, but it's a foggy tunnel. ;) )
Something good will come from this and unfortunately you don't know yet what it is, but you will. Just stay strong.
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Thanks, Tiffany! :) I know it will all work out. I truly believe it will- However I was NOT expecting this blow. It basically just slaps me in the face. When I was working for this company I was told EVERY day by my bosses and by the Agents that they LOVED me. I was AWESOME, and WONDERFUL, the best Admin they'd ever had...I got flowers, presents, etc... they loved me. They are the ones that TOLD me to take leave...then I get fired and now they lie and say I never worked there? I'm crushed!:(
 
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you have proof that you worked there.
you even have an email saying they no longer needed you.
it will work out. hang in there.
 
Kitchen Diva

My mom reminds me all the time that God will make footstools out of my enemies. Now is a time you really have to have faith and its all going to work out. I used to stress all the time until my mothe pointed out yet again that there has never been a time when I am without the neccesties(sp). And you can find solace in the fact that you've done everything honorably. I'll keep you in my prayers
 
That is heartbreaking. It's seems like they just don't want to have to pay the unemployment. I'm not sure exactly how that works, but I know the company has to pay something when one of their former collects unemployment. It's so sad what some employers will do to their former emplyess. It's wrong!
 
Kitchen Diva said:
I need to vent, then I need a shoulder to cry on!

As you all know (or may not know) I lost my job after my boss told me to take 2 weeks off to get my sister and niece settled in- once they moved in with us due to a family crisis. The day I was supposed to go back, they hadn't called me back to tell me what hours I would be working. It wasn't until 3 days later that I got an email (yes, an email) saying that they no longer had any hours for me. About a week before that my boss stopped taking my calls and answering my update emails, and all communications had to go through the new supervisor they hired while I was gone (they fired mine while I was out on my mini-leave)

So I filed for unemployment. I'm not proud of it, but I was fired, and have not been able to find another suitable job that meets my scheduling requirements. And get this... My FORMER employer told Unemployment that I NEVER worked there!

I am so hopping mad I could spit! Every fiber in my being is screaming out to get a lawyer, but I'm waiting it out. I sent Unemployment proof (again) that I worked for this company, so we'll see what happens. If anything it has just delayed things another month- so I filed in early March and was supposed to have my answer yesterday as to if I was approved for unemp or not. I now won't know for a while. I'm upset.

DH said he doesn't know how we will pay the bills on the 15th. Having my sister and her daughter to provide for has really taken it's toll on us financially. We are paying for some of her bills, gas, food, the additional water and electricity, clothing, medicine, other basic needs, etc... I was really counting on this unemployment check to come this week so I could relax while I'm searching for a new job... I just want to cry!:cry: :cry:
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Keep on Unemployment until they resolve it. I have a friend who was fired months ago and fought with unemployment and WON... reason? The employer never showed for the court date and he provided plenty of reason to show an unjustified 'firing'. It took about 3 months though for it all to come to a head, however the company was fined AND his payments are retro. Get thee to legal aid - they can help and won't charge you. So, hopefully you'll have a similar finale and quickly! While you may not be proud of it, have you looked into other help? With the number of folks in your household, you may qualify for help faster than unemployment. Most agencies have online help, support and filing ability too so hopefully there's some help for you out there.

Stay strong and know that this, while painful and frustrating, will make you stronger. Hang in there!
 
This is just so wrong, and I am outraged for you! Thank goodness you have proof (even pay stubs).

I will say a prayer that God sends His blessings to watch over you!
 
Oh yeah and for them to deny you were even employed? Well, show stubs... Unemployment goes by the reports they receive so if your employer didn't have you on the rolls, properly, they could be in a boatload of trouble. Oh yeah... try and be patient and see this unemployment thing through. Most likely they're harassing you in the hopes that you'll quit your pursuit of benefits. Do not give them the satisfaction.
 
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lkprescott said:
Keep on Unemployment until they resolve it. I have a friend who was fired months ago and fought with unemployment and WON... reason? The employer never showed for the court date and he provided plenty of reason to show an unjustified 'firing'. It took about 3 months though for it all to come to a head, however the company was fined AND his payments are retro. Get thee to legal aid - they can help and won't charge you. So, hopefully you'll have a similar finale and quickly! While you may not be proud of it, have you looked into other help? With the number of folks in your household, you may qualify for help faster than unemployment. Most agencies have online help, support and filing ability too so hopefully there's some help for you out there.

Stay strong and know that this, while painful and frustrating, will make you stronger. Hang in there!
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Sadly, my husband makes too much money for us to qualify for aid, and my sister cannot file for aid until she's been here for another 4 months.

I know in the bible it says that "we are the head and not the tail, above and not beneath" I will be victorious, but could someone throw me a bone here? How many times do I have to be hit when I'm already down? I busted my toosh for those people! I only had 3 lunch breaks the entire time I worked there.

I need to go and put on some praise music because I'm close to tears now. I take it so personally when people I thought really liked and valued be do something like this to me. And what hurts even more- is that there were a few Agents from that office that I did MAJOR business with (I actually brought them every transaction they did for one year) when I was a loan officer for Wells Fargo, and they won't talk to me either. They are the ones that helped me get the job, and now want nothing to do with me.

Yes, I'm glad I found out now what kind of friends they are, but it still doesn't make it sting any less.

Thanks again for helping to make me feel better and to remind me to keep my eyes on God and His love for me. I know He won't fail me, but I'm still crushed! Okay, off to go cry- I'm sure I'll feel better...
 
Just got online today - been busy. Sorry to hear of this recent turn of events. I too will be praying that it works out - keep fighting. Also, I know you were giving PC a rest with the family situation, but maybe you can do a show or two to bring in some income (unless of course you're TRYING to get to that year of inactivity).
 
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lkprescott said:
Oh yeah and for them to deny you were even employed? Well, show stubs... Unemployment goes by the reports they receive so if your employer didn't have you on the rolls, properly, they could be in a boatload of trouble. Oh yeah... try and be patient and see this unemployment thing through. Most likely they're harassing you in the hopes that you'll quit your pursuit of benefits. Do not give them the satisfaction.
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I already sent in my stubs early last month. So I'm not sure what they did with them. I filled out the form they had for me online, and entered the employers address, etc, and who they could speak with to verify my employment. If it comes down to it, I'll start calling the agents that really liked me. I still have the Agent Roster- since I had to make one the first week I started and needed to take it home to complete it. :)
 
Hey!

Sorry you're having a rough time.

I echo the suggestion to get thee to legal aid...not just for the unemployment benefits, but to make sure that you had a 'legal' firing. Something sounds fishy, and a good lawyer will find it if it's there.

I know you're a sweet, generous, and kind soul, but channel your inner you-know-what and get mean about it. They've done you wrong. To quote Ivana Trump, "Don't get mad....get everything." :)
 
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Thank you Ms. Jean! :)
 
Kacey...I am just now reading this post, too. Wow! I can't believe the nerve of some people! Remember that they will be held accountable for their actions. I pray that your unemployment goes through and that you end up getting MORE than what you were expecting! I pray God's provision over you, your family, and your house!

{{{HUGS}}}
 
Wow Kacey, that is really too bad. It is unbelievable to me that people can do that kind of stuff, especially to a good employee (I mean that as in it's shocking, not that I don't believe you! Thought I'd better clarify that :p ). I agree with the others about getting to Legal Aid for help, this is not right. And keep praying! You know we will be too! Oh, and a few tears are perfectly reasonable too :) Just make sure you check out the on-going joke thread too, for a giggle every once in a while :D

I feel so bad for everything you and your family have been through lately. Hugs!
 
No problem.

I don't really have a kind, generous bone in my body, so I'm the person my family gives things to when people need to be gently persuaded that they're wrong :)

I'm not mean about it, I'm just firm. I know what my rights are, and I know I'm good enough to fight for them.

Plus, I have a teeny, tiny vengence streak when I'm done wrong. Normally I can keep that in check though ;)

Good luck!
 
KaceyJust hang on to your faith that this will all work out. I'm assuming the system is somewhat similar in the US as it is here in Canada. If so, employers pay an amount to the Gov't for every employee. Plus, you have submitted pay stubs, so how would they explain that to the Govt?!?!?I like your idea of contacting Agents who know & like you. I'd be tempted to call them ASAP, before your former employer can try to hush them. God Bless -- I'll add you to my prayer list.
 
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peichef said:
Kacey

Just hang on to your faith that this will all work out. I'm assuming the system is somewhat similar in the US as it is here in Canada. If so, employers pay an amount to the Gov't for every employee. Plus, you have submitted pay stubs, so how would they explain that to the Govt?!?!?

I like your idea of contacting Agents who know & like you. I'd be tempted to call them ASAP, before your former employer can try to hush them.

God Bless -- I'll add you to my prayer list.
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Legal aid seems to be the way to go, since I could not afford an attorney to begin with AND if I won- what what I pay him? 60% of my meager unemployment checks? LOL- The good news is I found out my sister only has to be a resident for 30 days before she can get some sort of assistance. I mentioned earlier she had to be here for 6 months, and I was wrong. Thank God for that! :)

Where's the chocolate when you need it?
 
Kacey - I'm thinking of you! I can't believe all that you are going through right now. Remember - If God leads you to it, he will lead you through it. :) Hugs & prayers!
 
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Kacey - I'm thinking of you! I can't believe all that you are going through right now. Remember - If God leads you to it, he will lead you through it. :) Hugs & prayers!
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Thanks! I'll keep you all updated on how this goes...
 
Hey Kacey, I do think you should get to legal aid also. If they told you to take a leave, and it was only 2 weeks long, was it even legal for them to fire you in the first place? Maybe a lawyer could get you a settlement that will help even more than unemployment will...
 
Jean DeVries said:
No problem.

I don't really have a kind, generous bone in my body, so I'm the person my family gives things to when people need to be gently persuaded that they're wrong :)

I'm not mean about it, I'm just firm. I know what my rights are, and I know I'm good enough to fight for them.

Plus, I have a teeny, tiny vengence streak when I'm done wrong. Normally I can keep that in check though ;)

Good luck!
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I need to learn to channel my inner-Jean - LOL
I am such a ninny and am working very hard to toughen up.

Kacey - I wish I had some davice but I think everyone else has already given the only advice I would have suggested : Legal Aid!
In the meantime...consider yourself hugged.
 
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jbachen said:
Hey Kacey, I do think you should get to legal aid also. If they told you to take a leave, and it was only 2 weeks long, was it even legal for them to fire you in the first place? Maybe a lawyer could get you a settlement that will help even more than unemployment will...
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I questioned that to, however I wasn't even employed there for 3 months, so I think that is where I don't have much of a leg to stand on as far as suing them goes, but it doesn't mean I don't really, really want to! :)

Now, if I had been there for a year, and I took leave, and they fired me- well then I'd have two legs to stand on and a very solid legal case! :)

However I do agree with you- they TOLD me to take the leave. I offered to quit because it was a very busy office, and I wasn't sure how long I'd be gone. They told me to take two weeks, and if I needed more to let them know. I never needed more than 2 weeks and the next thing I know- I don't have a job. :grumpy:
 
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I need to learn to channel my inner-Jean - LOL
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Don't do it very often...it's a lonely lonely existence.

On a related note, do you want me to call your IL's?

Kitchen Diva...fret not. Karma is a you-know-what, and evil people get what evil people give. I don't know that works, but it always does.

I don't think it matters how long you've worked somewhere....illegal firing is illegal firing, no? Can't hurt to try...sometimes, if companies even think there's a chance they'll lose, they'll settle just to not have their name dragged through the press or pay the lawyers. And even if you lose, you've inconvenienced them, which in and of itself can be satisfying :)
 
Here in Georgia you are considered and 'employee at will' which means that you can be fired at any time for any reason. I don't think the firing is her issue, I think it's the fact that they are telling unemployment that she didn't work for them.
 
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pamperedlinda said:
Here in Georgia you are considered and 'employee at will' which means that you can be fired at any time for any reason. I don't think the firing is her issue, I think it's the fact that they are telling unemployment that she didn't work for them.
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Yes, although I'm still upset that I was fired, at will or not- They did TELL me to take the leave- they also TOLD me they did NOT want me to leave or quit, and to take as much time as I needed and just keep in touch every few days which I did...

I'm upset that they LIED to the unemployment agency and said I never worked there. Why would they do that when I have no fewer than 10 emails from them in my inbox, and pay stubs? It's not a case of not knowing who I am either- I was adored there- everyone knew me. I'm upset that they would stretch this "pending status" to my unemployment claim on longer than a month because they fired me, and then lied about hiring me. Twits!!!
 
Hiya Kacey...just when you thought it couldn't get worse, huh?! God certainly has a test going for you and you know how He works, right? He never tells us his plans, so take a deep breath and go to your happy place! Know that I am pullin' for ya, girl!
 
Sorry Kacey - I didn't mean that you weren't upset about the firing (no one likes that!), I just thought that the issue at hand was about the unemployment thing.
 
Oh Rae...time for some ankle kicking...where are you??????????? ;)
 
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