Director Question About "Paid As" Points

[PCJenni]

Will the points for being paid as a director in December be credited to the 2010 trip or the 2011?

HO told someone yes, but reading everthing it looks like it will be credit and count in Jan???

 

[finley1991]

I couldn't get a clear answer about that one either. Can't be much help here because it's such a grey area...

 

[PCJenni]

ugghhhhh I wish things we a bit more defined... some of this stuff comes down to the last minute and it make a difference, obviously!

 

[BethCooks4U]

I'm sure it would be for 2010. "Paid as = performed as" is earned and credited in Dec so it would be on the books in 2010.

 

[jwpamp]

Yes, I agree with Beth... when you look at the "Details" area of the incentive Calculator (by the points), the "paid-as" points are listed for the month they are earned.

 

[annew]

oh man.....I'm banking on those points!!!! isn't there anyone @ HO that can answer this for us?

 

[BethCooks4U]

Ask your sales manager.

Just wondering though: Why do you think they would be awarded in 2011?

 

[PCJenni]

they get deposited into our "bank" on the 10th of the month following the month you earn them in.

 

[Sheila]

I had no idea, so I asked my upline. Here's a quote from the Q&A section of the incentive rules:

Bonus Paid-as Points. Bonus point deposits will be awarded monthly based on “paid-as” level for the prior month. Bonus Paid-as Points for each month will be posted in the following month. For example, January bonuses will be posted by Feb. 10. December bonus paid-as points will be posted on Jan. 10, 2011.

According to my upline, they are paid in the current month for achievements made in the prior month, therefore, they count for the current month that they are applied. Meaning they are "earned" in January for your "paid as" in December and count for January 2011, not December 2010.

 

[finley1991]

"paid as" in December and count for January 2011, not December 2010.

That's what I understood but there is so much grey!!!!

 

[jwpamp]

However, I was a Director and PAID AS a Director in Dec 2009, but my points for the 2010 trip incentive calculator do not show those points....

 

[Sheila]

I don't know then Janice. I assumed they reviewed their point balance and confirmed the info. I specifically said no guesses.

 

[BethCooks4U]

I had no idea, so I asked my upline. Here's a quote from the Q&A section of the incentive rules:


According to my upline, they are paid in the current month for achievements made in the prior month, therefore, they count for the current month that they are applied. Meaning they are "earned" in January for your "paid as" in December and count for January 2011, not December 2010.

That is not how it works. I had a couple of months that I was paid as TL. I did not get the points in THOSE months. They update it on the 10th of the next month but it goes on the month earned (previous month).

I compared the incentive tracker to the performance tracker:

Feb - paid as D - 250 pts
March - paid as D - 250 pts
April - paid as TL - 0 pts
May - paid as D - 250 pts

 

[jwpamp]

That statement is in the Incentive Calculator -- next to the box that shows the "paid as" points breakdown for levels, so I see where it's written -- just so darn confusing, huh?

 

[BethCooks4U]

I have to say that I have very strong feelings about this "paid as" issue. I have a large enough team with plenty of SC's and shouldn't (in theory) have to worry about the level I am being paid as but then you can't force people to work.

I recently learned that even the bonus for recruiting is based on paid as in the month they quailfy. I just had 2 people get their $1250 in on the only month this fall that I didn't get paid as D so I got the lower TL bonus. IMHO that was taking the whole paid as thing too far.

Saying this to add credibility to my answer to the question of this thread. I know from experience when/how we get paid under this program.

THANKING GOD that we will have the "worse" of this behind us in March. There will still be "paid as" issues but they'll be in OUR hands. If I don't inspire enough of my team to work and I don't work myself, I won't get paid as D but at least it doesn't have to be the "chosen person" needing to submit. If we had had the new rules in place this whole time I wouldn't have had a single month paid as TL in the last 2 years.

Also, already, just with the promise of the coming changes, I have a couple of consultants who are now asking for guidance to promote! They wanted nothing to do with promoting under this program but the new one is exciting to them. I feel the pressure off. From the start of my business I always promoted recruiting and when I promoted to D I immediately had more than double the required 5 recruits in my downline because my recruits were recruiting. In the present program it was like pulling teeth. But I already feel the difference in me and in the team. We will grow!

...hadn't intended to write a book.

 

[BethCooks4U]

That statement is in the Incentive Calculator -- next to the box that shows the "paid as" points breakdown for levels, so I see where it's written -- just so darn confusing, huh?

Yeah. But the statement does not say it will be posted on the new month, it will be posted on the 10th - just like they update our stats for the previous month.

 

[PCJenni]

so we all understand now that this IS confusing!!! Yet another thing that needs to be more specific in the rules so that everyone is on the same page!

 

[Inomiamenda]

Yeah. But the statement does not say it will be posted on the new month, it will be posted on the 10th - just like they update our stats for the previous month.

What Beth said. December is in 2010. The points will be applied to this incentive trip.

 

[annew]

WAHOO is all I have to say for the bonus points counting!!!!!!!!!!!!