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Pampered Chef: Facebook is a NO NO, right?

  1. cwinter474

    cwinter474 Veteran Member Gold Member

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    I just want to be sure I understand this.

    We are not allowed anywhere on the web, other than our own website, made thru Pampered Chef, to advertise that we are a Pampered Chef consultant.

    Right?

    ok, then why can you find consultants thru Facebook?
     
    Aug 22, 2009
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  2. NooraK

    NooraK Legend Member Gold Member

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    Because people don't follow rules.
     
    Aug 22, 2009
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  3. BlessedWifeMommy

    BlessedWifeMommy Veteran Member

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    Yes you are right.
    Because consultants are breaking the rules. Just like they break the rules by trying to sell on eBay, Amazon.com, Craigslist.com, just to name a few.

    I can hear your frustration. And share it. All I can say is send the offenders to pws_links@pamperedchef.com. I just copy the URL of the page and include it in my email.
     
  4. cwinter474

    cwinter474 Veteran Member Gold Member

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    I am so fustrated right now with the select few that have to screw things up for the ones of us. The rule keepers, the consultants that just want to share information with each other the ones of us that aren't all about $$$$$. I think we are slowly becoming the consultant of the past. Making money is important, but let's not step on each other to do it.
     
    Aug 22, 2009
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  5. BlessedWifeMommy

    BlessedWifeMommy Veteran Member

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    I want to add, that I know that it is difficult to understand all of the rules when you start. I know that some people just don't know they are breaking the rules, that is why it is important to send the links to HO. HO can't inform consultants that are breaking the rules, if they don't know who is posting info on the web. Sure HO can do searches, but I'm sure it isn't easy finding all of the offenses.

    This is one rule that I really think needs to be explained clearly.
     
  6. cwinter474

    cwinter474 Veteran Member Gold Member

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    And the one about where we can and cant place print ads
     
    Aug 22, 2009
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  7. Judybabe

    Judybabe Guest

    Carol, are you referring to the pampered chef consultants who are selling your recipe file as a package with the dcb? I saw two PC'er's there.

    Plus there is one on ebay. selling a used dcb with the promise of sending the recipe file.

    The snowmen aprons are over 30.00 each now. plus one more was added today.

    I sell sewing patterns if anyone wants some! stuff left over from when my daughter was young.
     
    Aug 22, 2009
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  8. Judybabe

    Judybabe Guest

    I guess if HO was against posting on facebook then they would monitor it. all you have to do is search pampered chef in 'all postings' and a number of women come up with full ads, august, sept. specials, Carol's file of recipes, a christmas brochure on packages that I also saw here.

    Maybe it's not so bad advertising on FB. I have an account, it doesn't cost anything. why not? I will ask the HO on Monday and see what they say.

    the consultants posted there offer their full names, full color pictures of themselves, catalog pictures must be a success...

    I quit after the first four.
     
    Aug 22, 2009
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  9. wadesgirl

    wadesgirl Legend Member Gold Member

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    It is a no-no but I do see people all the time blatenly advertising. I usually end up either defriending those people or making it so I cannot see their posts.
     
    Aug 22, 2009
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  10. NooraK

    NooraK Legend Member Gold Member

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    You can see by the "Similar Threads" at the bottom that this topic has been discussed endlessly before. Bottom line is that some people are not going to follow the rules, and there's not much we can do about it. For me, I keep check on my own integrity and leave it at that.
     
    Aug 22, 2009
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  11. cwinter474

    cwinter474 Veteran Member Gold Member

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    Sorry I didn't research this BEFORE I posted. Excuse me.
     
    Aug 22, 2009
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  12. chefann

    chefann Legend Member Gold Member

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    HO doesn't have the staff to monitor the internet all the time. They rely on consultants to pass along violations.
     
    Aug 22, 2009
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  13. pampchefsarah

    pampchefsarah Senior Member Gold Member

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    I don't think that was the way she meant it. Only that there are so many people blatantly breaking this rule, and it's so frustrating to those of us who try to do the right thing that the topic comes up often. I even had someone un-friend me on Facebook because I tried to warn her it may cause a problem with HO.

    The fact consultants are including your recipe book in their illegal Facebook ads is especially upsetting, since it means at least one is a Cheffer, and should be very aware of the rules by now!
     
  14. kdangel518

    kdangel518 Advanced Member Gold Member

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    Judy- I wouldn't recommend it. Just because others are getting away with it doesn't mean it's right or ok. If you call HO they will tell you no, you can't list your PWS on FB or advertise on FB that you are a PC consultant, period.
     
    Aug 22, 2009
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  15. Chef Gilles

    Chef Gilles Member Gold Member

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    In my opinion, HO doesn't care where or how you advertise as long as you sell and they make the money.... They have to have a policy manual, but really....why would they interfere if the money is coming in!
     
    Aug 22, 2009
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  16. Judybabe

    Judybabe Guest

    In my opinion, HO doesn't care where or how you advertise as long as you sell and they make the money.... They have to have a policy manual, but really....why would they interfere if the money is coming in!:grumpy:

    Exactly! no different than any other business. But I'll post that on another thread to not deviate.
     
    Aug 22, 2009
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  17. rennea

    rennea Legacy Member Gold Member

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    Actually HO does care and takes it very seriously. They can cancel your consultant agreement. Ask any consultant that has been contacted by head office for advertising or linking etc on the internet and they will tell you it IS very serious. This had been talked about a millions times on here how serious HO takes breaking their advertising rules.
     
    Aug 23, 2009
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  18. rennea

    rennea Legacy Member Gold Member

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    I don't think Noora meant it the way you think. But this topic has been discussed a millions times and it sometimes leads to hurt feelings and disagreements.


    The fact that somebody used your recipe collection that you spent time and energy putting it together and is profiting from it on Ebay is DISGRACEFUL!



    If that person reads this......you suck!:thumbdown:
     
    Aug 23, 2009
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  19. Judybabe

    Judybabe Guest

    Kara, can I list my PWS (Personal Web Site?) or my affiliation with Pampered Chef on my outgoing emails? I have several email listings that I subscribe to that I could email my info, current sales and contact info. This involves several thousand recipients across the nation.
     
    Aug 23, 2009
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  20. rennea

    rennea Legacy Member Gold Member

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    I'm not Kara, but yes you can use your PWS in your outgoing emails.
     
    Aug 23, 2009
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  21. Judybabe

    Judybabe Guest

    thanks!

    and thanks for sticking up for Carol!
     
    Aug 23, 2009
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  22. SpiritdancerIA

    SpiritdancerIA Member Gold Member

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    I'd like to clarify this, because it came up in my area recently.

    Having your info and website in an email you PERSONALLY send out is fine, even if going to a large list you are a member of (say, a YahooGroup). Of course, this depends on the group - if they have a "no commercial advertising" rule, you will need to remove the sig.

    Having your info included in an email advertising service that you pay a fee for? That's a no-go. A consultant in this area took out an ad in a local email coupon advertising service. HO has apparently talked to her about it, because it's now been removed.

    Personally, on FB I might mention "I'm working at a party" or "I just hit a sales goal with my business" or "I love my job". I specifically leave "Pampered Chef" off out of it. If my friends want to know more, they'll ask me. And, frankly, I don't like pushing my business in my friend's faces all the time - my blog and my FB account are for more than just advertising :)
     
  23. chefann

    chefann Legend Member Gold Member

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    Actually, having your PWS in an email signature that goes to a Yahoo/Google group is a violation, since the messages are usually archived and are searchable/viewable from the general internet.
     
    Aug 23, 2009
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  24. AJPratt

    AJPratt Legend Member Silver Member

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    I posted this in the other FB thread, but in case you miss it... My post was:

    I don't want to open a can of worms, but I have been on the receiving end of an attack and an HO probe and I feel that I can speak with with a some degree of authority. Neither is pleasant. And, to make matters worse, I actually wasn't doing anything wrong. But, when you are reported, in my experience, I "guilty until proved innocent". I got a number of threatening emails from HO and I was really scared that my consultantcy would be taken away, and I had no idea why or even how to fix it. You would think if I wasn't doing anything wrong, I wouldn't have to worry, but I did.

    Don't get me wrong. I used to report these offenders ALL the time until I got reported. I felt that it was my duty to report those violating the rules. If I didn't do it,who would? Once I was reported, I decided to let those who work for HO to do this. They have the time, resources and get paid to do it. When I do it, it costs me money. I decided that I would be better off focusing on other things: my business, and not getting angry with violators. I really don't mean to sound snotty, but I realized I was focusing my energy on these people and wasting my time, neglecting my business. Like I said, I don't want to offend anyone, that is not my intention, and I don't want to get into an argument, but sometimes its best to just say, "You know what? Winners never cheat and cheaters never win." They really don't. And, they have to live looking over their shoulders.

    I am just trying to help someone else avoid what I went through (on both sides, I guess).
     
    Aug 23, 2009
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  25. rennea

    rennea Legacy Member Gold Member

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    Thanks Ann I never thought of that!
     
    Aug 23, 2009
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  26. SpiritdancerIA

    SpiritdancerIA Member Gold Member

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    Hmm, never thought about that. Then again, all the groups I send mail to are either private/member only access to archives, or require I not use the sig (biggest example here is Freecycle, which requires no commercial activity on the group).
     
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