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  1. NooraK

    NooraK Legend Member Gold Member

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    Could I make a request please?

    I know that we all agree to not post details of Conference on CS until Wave 3 is over, but I know some of you will come home very excited to share all the information with your friends and customers who may be friends on FB too.

    I would ask that you don't forget though that you have friends who are in different waves and want to be just as surprised with all the new stuff as you were when you went.

    It only dawned on me just today that FB might be a medium through which I might inadvertantly learn about the cool new stuff. I love surpises, and it's always a let down when it's spoiled before it's time (I found out about DH's proposal plans when he accidentally sent me an email that wasn't meant for my eyes). So maybe I'm overthinking this, but one of the highlights of conference for me was seeing the new products on stage, and I don't want to miss out on that excited anticipation.

    This may just be a silly request, but I thought I'd put it out there anyway.
     
    Jul 3, 2009
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  2. raebates

    raebates Legend Member Staff Member

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    Good reminder, Noora. One of the advantages of being in Wave 3 is that we can share our excitement with everyone right away. :)
     
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  3. DebbieJ

    DebbieJ Legend Member

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    Good point, Noora! Thanks for bringing that up.
     
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  4. ChefBeckyD

    ChefBeckyD Legend Member Gold Member

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    Smart, Noora - I hadn't even thought of that. :thumbup:
     
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  5. Intrepid_Chef

    Intrepid_Chef Legend Member Silver Member

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    I thought we weren't supposed to talk about Pampered Chef on FB at all??
     
  6. dkitten13

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    Di, I thought the same thing!
     
    Jul 3, 2009
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  7. NooraK

    NooraK Legend Member Gold Member

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    There are different interpretations of the rules and how they pertain to FB. I personally don't mention PC by name, but I'll talk about doing parties etc. I could just see someone posting as a status "Suzy Q is excited about the new ______ that will be available in September!"
     
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  8. dkitten13

    dkitten13 Member

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    Good point Noora, I hadn't thought of it that way.
     
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  9. pcchefjane

    pcchefjane Senior Member Gold Member

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    If you have your settings set to "Friend Only", you can post information on FB. I don't post my PWS link there but have posted about the fundraiser I am doing, getting orders in by a certain deadline, etc. As long as you offer no direct link, you are safe as long as you are not "public"!

    I can't imagine anyone doing that but then I am shocked about the eBayers who sell all the things that only consultants can get and lie about being a consultant!
     
    Jul 3, 2009
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  10. cmdtrgd

    cmdtrgd Legacy Member Gold Member

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    I could also see setting up a note attached to your profile as a way to get info to the customers and keep those who want to be surprised away. However, I don't share with my customers what is coming out (unless I know that person has been wanting whatever it is) until I have August booked. I focus on what is being discontinued!
     
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  11. raebates

    raebates Legend Member Staff Member

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    I'm the same way, Kate. I use August to talk about the new products to book September.

    And, pcchefjane, even if your profile is set to Friends Only, it's illegal to have your PWS listed. (I know you said you don't, but others might take that to mean it's okay if they do.)

    I talk on FB about parties, but I don't mention the company. If anyone asks I go private with a Message. I'd rather err on the safe side.
     
    Jul 4, 2009
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  12. soccermama

    soccermama Advanced Member

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    I did a search for Pampered Chef one day on Facebook.... I was a bit ticked off at how many "The Pampered Chef" "fan" pages there were.... and at how many people had their websites listed! It's a bit frustrating to see how many people just don't seem to care that listing our websites on the internet is a clear violation of our contract with The Pampered Chef.....
     
    Jul 5, 2009
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  13. raebates

    raebates Legend Member Staff Member

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    It's frustrating, Celeste. I believe that following the rules (whether you agree with them or not) is a sign of a responsible, ethical businessperson.
     
    Jul 6, 2009
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  14. ChefBeckyD

    ChefBeckyD Legend Member Gold Member

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    This is what I do too. Sometimes I talk about what I'm cooking, or what a great party I had, or how much I love my job - but I never mention The Pampered Chef by name.;)
     
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  15. chef131doreen

    chef131doreen Veteran Member Gold Member

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    OMG I can not believe what I just saw........ i went on facebook and pout in the search PAMPEREDCHEF so many consutlants with there info right ther to see their website , how the people can contact them , how they van have a party There are even Directors doing it SHAME on them .

    I THINK WE ALL HERE SHOULD CALL H.0 TODAY AND REPORT THIS .This is not fair to all of us that are working very hard for all of our sale
    Are you all with me I am calling as soon as the open and you bet i will tell them at National Confrence when i get there
     
  16. beckyjsmith

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    Honestly I don't think that someone having their website or info posted on fb is going to cost me any business. I can't imagine that most people go to fb looking for a PC consultant. As long as I am on the phone and on top of my business, I don't really worry about what other people are doing. They have to live with their ethical violations. And no, I don't have my info posted on fb. Of the friends I have on there, they all know I am with PC anyway.
    Just my two cents...
     
    Jul 6, 2009
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  17. colegrovet

    colegrovet Veteran Member Gold Member

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    that's what I do too.. I'm always posting "preparing or going to do a PC show"
    that's it..
     
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  18. darlinclem

    darlinclem Advanced Member Gold Member

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    I know technology is moving faster than most can keep up with these days, but I truly believe that Pampered Chef has to make some serious SPECIFIC rules. These need to be spelled out and posted in numerous places (not just our contract info pages). I would really like to post my link to the site I pay for each year so my friends can see it and keep it in mind. I think that should be fair and allowed especially if we are set to private. Same thing for MySpace and Twitter and anything else that may come along. It can only help our business as long as we follow set rules. Right now the rules are a bit ambiguous and people use that to their advantage. I would rather error on the side of caution.
     
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  19. raebates

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    Part of the problem as I understand it is the way search engines work. My friend who looked for my website (and didn't find it) by googling my name and Pampered Chef found a few of my postings here at CS. If someone has their website listed online, doing a search of PC can bring them up. This can be a financial advantage. It also opens a can of worms for the HO, since they have no control over what I say on those sites.

    I don't find the rules all that restrictive. I can tell people what I do without mentioning the name. If they ask, I can send them information in a private message. The rules are pretty specific. No posting of your website online and no listing of yourself as a PC consultant on social sites. Period.

    It's no surprise to me that people break the rules. Have you tried driving the posted speed limit on a highway lately?
     
    Jul 6, 2009
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  20. chef131doreen

    chef131doreen Veteran Member Gold Member

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    I agree with you the rules are right there on line for anyone of us to read
    what i said I found is right on fb search pamperedchef and you will find all the websits people post
    this is on the rules

    "'The second exception pertains to personal electronic
    communications. You may continue to include your Personal
    Web Site address as part of your contact information or
    signature on e-invitations, any e-mails that are currently
    available through your Personal Web Site and your personal
    e-mails to your customers. These communications may link
    to your Personal Web Site. This also includes any electronic
    mail pieces that may be developed by our licensed
    merchandise vendor.
    The ban on linking also prohibits the following:
    • Listing or linking your Personal Web Site in Internet
    directories or search engines, such as Google or Yahoo.
    • Purchasing or using a separate domain name to re-direct
    visitors to your Personal Web Site.
    • Linking to Consultant’s Corner from any Web site.
    • Linking to The Pampered Chef® corporate Web site
    from any Web site.
    It is your sole responsibility to ensure that your Personal
    Web Site is not linked to any other Web site that violates
    these policies."
     
  21. pchefbonnie

    pchefbonnie Novice Member

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    On facebook, there is a place to list your employer. Would it be acceptable to list your job as a Pampered Chef Independent Consultant? (Without listing your website & just listing your job title?)
     
    Jul 6, 2009
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  22. beckyjsmith

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    I guess I never thought of that as being restrictive because, again, I have plenty of business and I keep it strong by staying in personal contact with my customer base. I do think it is outdated as social networking is fast becoming one of the largest social mediums, but I also understand that PC opens a huge can of worms by allowing consultants to post links to their websites in various places. Like Rae Bates said, they can't control what any one of us says that may be misconstrued as official PC news or some such.
    What I don't understand is the mentality of worrying about what other people are doing and making it a point to run and tell. The way I see it, as long as I am taking care of my business, I really don't have time to keep up with what others are doing.
     
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  23. chefann

    chefann Legend Member Gold Member

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    No. The policies clearly state that we are not allowed to state anywhere online that we are PC consultants.
     
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  24. chef131doreen

    chef131doreen Veteran Member Gold Member

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    I am taking care of my business and I have for 9 years earning trips TPC ect
    but what is not fair is when we are not alowed to do somthing by having web-info on licks Even if that gets someone 1 sale or one person to join there team ( that is one of the percks that Team Leaders get Home office leads ) I work very hard on my business to get what I have with PC
    I am not a telling on them because I hav e nothing else to do

    Yes PC will probably allow all of this in the future but for now it's not , and the dirctors ect that do post this stuff should know better.

    Its the same as selling stuff on Ebay not allowed
     
  25. Chef Bobby

    Chef Bobby Veteran Member Gold Member

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    I'm sure most of these people will be getting a warning from HO the way I did with MySpace when I frst started.
     
    Jul 6, 2009
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  26. Shawnna

    Shawnna Senior Member Gold Member

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    The way I see it...people who ignore the rules by posting their websites and saying they are consultants will eventually pay a price. However, some do not know they are breaking the rules, and sometimes customers or friends post the information without their knowledge. It will eventually get flagged by home office or someone who lets them know. If they are accidents then the consultant will not be upset by someone letting them know. If they are not accidents, then eventually it will cost them big. This seems to be a huge violation to some, but if we are going to report everything we see in violation we better make sure we are not in violation of anything ourselves. Rules are rules and all rules are the same...one is not more important than another. Breaking any rule is not good. But, it all goes back to personal interpretation of the rules.

    I am not going to report anyone. And I don't go looking on ebay for PC products or do a search for PC to see if I can find anyone listed. They have to deal with that themselves.
     
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  27. schel

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    I did the same, and I did send a few notes to those that were listed as directors and in return this person was very rude to me and posted all kinds of rude comments on her page about me. I will not say anything else ever again after being slung through the mud by a senior director on Facebook. I contacted my hospitality that was the one that reminded all of us in the cluster that we could not do this & that this person was doing this and a friend of hers, not sure where things went after that. I never heard any more. Just gave a bad name to someone that we as only consultants look up to someone like that that would bahave that way.

    I'm not saying all those at that level behave that way, this person was a senior director behaving poorly to me. Not cool as far as I am concerned!

    Schel
     
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  28. NooraK

    NooraK Legend Member Gold Member

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    It's been addressed before, unfortunately many consultants are not happy to be informed that they're breaking the rules. It's not something that I would advocate. If you are concerned enough to do something, let HO office know, and let them deal with it.

    The only consolation I can offer: If you were customer of hers, what would you think if you saw how she treated you on her posts? The only one she's hurting in the end is herself.
     
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  29. kaseydee

    kaseydee Veteran Member Gold Member

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    The facebook pages are nothing new. They have been on there at least a year or more that I know of. PC doesn't have the time or resources to get everyone off or they wouldn't have the info out there.
     
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  30. chefcaroline

    chefcaroline Member Gold Member

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    The last time I said something to anyone about it, they told me that our NED was mentioning PC on her FB page so they figured that they could also...

    So I dropped the subject.
     
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  31. schel

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    I pretty much dropped it also.
     
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  32. Chef Bobby

    Chef Bobby Veteran Member Gold Member

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    My only connection to PC on Facebook is when I play "Farm Town". The name of my farm is Pampered Chef Farm. Hopefully someone will bring up questions about it.
    Anybody want to be my neighbor?
     
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  33. DebbieJ

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    Not true. I am set to friends only and still got a violation notice. So I guess one of my "friends" turned me in. *shrug*
     
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  34. byrd1956

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    As my extra job I listed I had a home based business that has fantastic products that I use in the kitchen everyday!
     
    Jul 15, 2009
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  35. cmdtrgd

    cmdtrgd Legacy Member Gold Member

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    1. In response to if we could list Pampered Chef as our employer, Ann is correct. However, Pampered Chef is not our employer, we are independent consultants.

    2. Some upper level directors are allowed to advertise in ways we aren't - check the policies online.

    3. If you are upset, forward it to HO and let it go. Take that time and energy to focus on YOUR business!

    4. HO is currently looking at the policies and will (hopefully) soon be updating them.
     
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  36. I have a friend that sells Chez Ami children's clothing that is an independent sales company. Chez Ami actually encourages their consultants to get their name and business out there as much as possible. The owner's husband, Joel Aiken, actually set up a Chez Ami (Patsy Aiken Designs) fan and consultant page on Facebook. They realize that this is a way to promote a business and I must say that PC needs to look into that. I think it is a good thing rather than a bad thing even though nothing about Pampered Chef is on my FB page.
     
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  37. ChefMary412

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    I think it is all about equality. Not everyone has internet access. It is not really a web based company, so it does not encourage it that way. Might be nice for PC to update their policy in some way. I am sure they have looked into it.
     
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  38. etteluap70PC

    etteluap70PC Legacy Member Gold Member

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    Seriuosly? Wow.... that really stinks!
     
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  39. Jolie_Paradoxe

    Jolie_Paradoxe Senior Member Gold Member

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    Wow, what a "friend". I agree with Paulette, that stinks!

    This is when your friend should have come to you with her problem with your post, rather than go to HO. Tsk, tsk.
     
  40. pampcheflisa

    pampcheflisa Advanced Member Gold Member

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    I found it really interesting that in a workshop I attended the speaker actually promoted using Facebook as a tool for your business.
     
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