Attn Facebooking Cheffers

NooraK · 07-03-2009, 05:14 PM

Could I make a request please?

I know that we all agree to not post details of Conference on CS until Wave 3 is over, but I know some of you will come home very excited to share all the information with your friends and customers who may be friends on FB too.

I would ask that you don't forget though that you have friends who are in different waves and want to be just as surprised with all the new stuff as you were when you went.

It only dawned on me just today that FB might be a medium through which I might inadvertantly learn about the cool new stuff. I love surpises, and it's always a let down when it's spoiled before it's time (I found out about DH's proposal plans when he accidentally sent me an email that wasn't meant for my eyes). So maybe I'm overthinking this, but one of the highlights of conference for me was seeing the new products on stage, and I don't want to miss out on that excited anticipation.

This may just be a silly request, but I thought I'd put it out there anyway.

raebates · 07-03-2009, 05:16 PM

Good reminder, Noora. One of the advantages of being in Wave 3 is that we can share our excitement with everyone right away.

DebbieJ · 07-03-2009, 05:19 PM

Good point, Noora! Thanks for bringing that up.

ChefBeckyD · 07-03-2009, 05:22 PM

Smart, Noora - I hadn't even thought of that.

Di_Can_Cook · 07-03-2009, 05:23 PM

I thought we weren't supposed to talk about Pampered Chef on FB at all??

dkitten13 · 07-03-2009, 05:58 PM

Di, I thought the same thing!

NooraK · 07-03-2009, 06:10 PM

There are different interpretations of the rules and how they pertain to FB. I personally don't mention PC by name, but I'll talk about doing parties etc. I could just see someone posting as a status "Suzy Q is excited about the new ______ that will be available in September!"

dkitten13 · 07-03-2009, 06:35 PM

Good point Noora, I hadn't thought of it that way.

pcchefjane · 07-03-2009, 10:27 PM

If you have your settings set to "Friend Only", you can post information on FB. I don't post my PWS link there but have posted about the fundraiser I am doing, getting orders in by a certain deadline, etc. As long as you offer no direct link, you are safe as long as you are not "public"!

I can't imagine anyone doing that but then I am shocked about the eBayers who sell all the things that only consultants can get and lie about being a consultant!

cmdtrgd · 07-03-2009, 11:07 PM

I could also see setting up a note attached to your profile as a way to get info to the customers and keep those who want to be surprised away. However, I don't share with my customers what is coming out (unless I know that person has been wanting whatever it is) until I have August booked. I focus on what is being discontinued!

raebates · 07-04-2009, 07:01 AM

I'm the same way, Kate. I use August to talk about the new products to book September.

And, pcchefjane, even if your profile is set to Friends Only, it's illegal to have your PWS listed. (I know you said you don't, but others might take that to mean it's okay if they do.)

I talk on FB about parties, but I don't mention the company. If anyone asks I go private with a Message. I'd rather err on the safe side.

soccermama · 07-06-2009, 12:09 AM

I did a search for Pampered Chef one day on Facebook.... I was a bit ticked off at how many "The Pampered Chef" "fan" pages there were.... and at how many people had their websites listed! It's a bit frustrating to see how many people just don't seem to care that listing our websites on the internet is a clear violation of our contract with The Pampered Chef.....

raebates · 07-06-2009, 07:06 AM

It's frustrating, Celeste. I believe that following the rules (whether you agree with them or not) is a sign of a responsible, ethical businessperson.

ChefBeckyD · 07-06-2009, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raebates

I'm the same way, Kate. I use August to talk about the new products to book September.

And, pcchefjane, even if your profile is set to Friends Only, it's illegal to have your PWS listed. (I know you said you don't, but others might take that to mean it's okay if they do.)

I talk on FB about parties, but I don't mention the company. If anyone asks I go private with a Message. I'd rather err on the safe side.

This is what I do too. Sometimes I talk about what I'm cooking, or what a great party I had, or how much I love my job - but I never mention The Pampered Chef by name.

chef131doreen · 07-06-2009, 07:46 AM

OMG I can not believe what I just saw........ i went on facebook and pout in the search PAMPEREDCHEF so many consutlants with there info right ther to see their website , how the people can contact them , how they van have a party There are even Directors doing it SHAME on them .

I THINK WE ALL HERE SHOULD CALL H.0 TODAY AND REPORT THIS .This is not fair to all of us that are working very hard for all of our sale
Are you all with me I am calling as soon as the open and you bet i will tell them at National Confrence when i get there

beckyjsmith · 07-06-2009, 07:15 AM

Honestly I don't think that someone having their website or info posted on fb is going to cost me any business. I can't imagine that most people go to fb looking for a PC consultant. As long as I am on the phone and on top of my business, I don't really worry about what other people are doing. They have to live with their ethical violations. And no, I don't have my info posted on fb. Of the friends I have on there, they all know I am with PC anyway.
Just my two cents...

colegrovet · 07-06-2009, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raebates

I'm the same way, Kate. I use August to talk about the new products to book September.

And, pcchefjane, even if your profile is set to Friends Only, it's illegal to have your PWS listed. (I know you said you don't, but others might take that to mean it's okay if they do.)

I talk on FB about parties, but I don't mention the company. If anyone asks I go private with a Message. I'd rather err on the safe side.

that's what I do too.. I'm always posting "preparing or going to do a PC show"
that's it..

darlinclem · 07-06-2009, 10:58 AM

I know technology is moving faster than most can keep up with these days, but I truly believe that Pampered Chef has to make some serious SPECIFIC rules. These need to be spelled out and posted in numerous places (not just our contract info pages). I would really like to post my link to the site I pay for each year so my friends can see it and keep it in mind. I think that should be fair and allowed especially if we are set to private. Same thing for MySpace and Twitter and anything else that may come along. It can only help our business as long as we follow set rules. Right now the rules are a bit ambiguous and people use that to their advantage. I would rather error on the side of caution.

raebates · 07-06-2009, 11:31 AM

Part of the problem as I understand it is the way search engines work. My friend who looked for my website (and didn't find it) by googling my name and Pampered Chef found a few of my postings here at CS. If someone has their website listed online, doing a search of PC can bring them up. This can be a financial advantage. It also opens a can of worms for the HO, since they have no control over what I say on those sites.

I don't find the rules all that restrictive. I can tell people what I do without mentioning the name. If they ask, I can send them information in a private message. The rules are pretty specific. No posting of your website online and no listing of yourself as a PC consultant on social sites. Period.

It's no surprise to me that people break the rules. Have you tried driving the posted speed limit on a highway lately?

chef131doreen · 07-06-2009, 11:38 AM

I agree with you the rules are right there on line for anyone of us to read
what i said I found is right on fb search pamperedchef and you will find all the websits people post
this is on the rules

"'The second exception pertains to personal electronic
communications. You may continue to include your Personal
Web Site address as part of your contact information or
signature on e-invitations, any e-mails that are currently
available through your Personal Web Site and your personal
e-mails to your customers. These communications may link
to your Personal Web Site. This also includes any electronic
mail pieces that may be developed by our licensed
merchandise vendor.
The ban on linking also prohibits the following:
• Listing or linking your Personal Web Site in Internet
directories or search engines, such as Google or Yahoo.
• Purchasing or using a separate domain name to re-direct
visitors to your Personal Web Site.
• Linking to Consultant’s Corner from any Web site.
• Linking to The Pampered Chef® corporate Web site
from any Web site.
It is your sole responsibility to ensure that your Personal
Web Site is not linked to any other Web site that violates
these policies."

07-03-2009, 05:14 PM	#1
NooraK Location: Georgia Posts: 1,505 Best Show: 900 Experience: 3 # of Shows: 52 My Mood:	Attn Facebooking Cheffers Could I make a request please? I know that we all agree to not post details of Conference on CS until Wave 3 is over, but I know some of you will come home very excited to share all the information with your friends and customers who may be friends on FB too. I would ask that you don't forget though that you have friends who are in different waves and want to be just as surprised with all the new stuff as you were when you went. It only dawned on me just today that FB might be a medium through which I might inadvertantly learn about the cool new stuff. I love surpises, and it's always a let down when it's spoiled before it's time (I found out about DH's proposal plans when he accidentally sent me an email that wasn't meant for my eyes). So maybe I'm overthinking this, but one of the highlights of conference for me was seeing the new products on stage, and I don't want to miss out on that excited anticipation. This may just be a silly request, but I thought I'd put it out there anyway.

07-03-2009, 05:16 PM	#2
raebates Location: Denver, IN Posts: 14,220 Best Show: $1,779 Experience: 5 # of Shows: 350 My Mood:	Re: Attn Facebooking Cheffers Good reminder, Noora. One of the advantages of being in Wave 3 is that we can share our excitement with everyone right away.

07-03-2009, 05:19 PM	#3
DebbieJ Location: The rolling plains of suburban Chicago Posts: 9,895 Best Show: 2760 Experience: 3 # of Shows: 250 My Mood:	Re: Attn Facebooking Cheffers Good point, Noora! Thanks for bringing that up.

07-03-2009, 05:22 PM	#4
ChefBeckyD Location: West Michigan Posts: 16,397 Best Show: $5052 Experience: 6 # of Shows: 335 My Mood:	Re: Attn Facebooking Cheffers Smart, Noora - I hadn't even thought of that.

07-03-2009, 05:23 PM	#5
Di_Can_Cook Location: Ohio Posts: 2,969 Best Show: $1,209 Experience: 1 # of Shows: 25 My Mood:	Re: Attn Facebooking Cheffers I thought we weren't supposed to talk about Pampered Chef on FB at all??

07-03-2009, 05:58 PM	#6
dkitten13 Location: Oak Ridge, NJ Posts: 456 Best Show: 800 Experience: <1 # of Shows: 7 My Mood:	Re: Attn Facebooking Cheffers Di, I thought the same thing!

07-03-2009, 06:10 PM	#7
NooraK Location: Georgia Posts: 1,505 Best Show: 900 Experience: 3 # of Shows: 52 My Mood:	Re: Attn Facebooking Cheffers There are different interpretations of the rules and how they pertain to FB. I personally don't mention PC by name, but I'll talk about doing parties etc. I could just see someone posting as a status "Suzy Q is excited about the new ______ that will be available in September!"

07-03-2009, 06:35 PM	#8
dkitten13 Location: Oak Ridge, NJ Posts: 456 Best Show: 800 Experience: <1 # of Shows: 7 My Mood:	Re: Attn Facebooking Cheffers Good point Noora, I hadn't thought of it that way.

07-03-2009, 10:27 PM	#9
pcchefjane Location: SE Tennessee Posts: 2,426 Best Show: 1202! Experience: 2 # of Shows: 56 My Mood:	Re: Attn Facebooking Cheffers If you have your settings set to "Friend Only", you can post information on FB. I don't post my PWS link there but have posted about the fundraiser I am doing, getting orders in by a certain deadline, etc. As long as you offer no direct link, you are safe as long as you are not "public"! I can't imagine anyone doing that but then I am shocked about the eBayers who sell all the things that only consultants can get and lie about being a consultant!

07-03-2009, 11:07 PM	#10
cmdtrgd Location: Boise, ID Posts: 4,823 Best Show: 1315 Experience: 3 # of Shows: 152 My Mood:	Re: Attn Facebooking Cheffers I could also see setting up a note attached to your profile as a way to get info to the customers and keep those who want to be surprised away. However, I don't share with my customers what is coming out (unless I know that person has been wanting whatever it is) until I have August booked. I focus on what is being discontinued!

07-04-2009, 07:01 AM	#11
raebates Location: Denver, IN Posts: 14,220 Best Show: $1,779 Experience: 5 # of Shows: 350 My Mood:	Re: Attn Facebooking Cheffers I'm the same way, Kate. I use August to talk about the new products to book September. And, pcchefjane, even if your profile is set to Friends Only, it's illegal to have your PWS listed. (I know you said you don't, but others might take that to mean it's okay if they do.) I talk on FB about parties, but I don't mention the company. If anyone asks I go private with a Message. I'd rather err on the safe side.

07-06-2009, 12:09 AM	#12
soccermama Location: Washington Posts: 594 Best Show: 2092 Experience: 2 # of Shows: My Mood:	Re: Attn Facebooking Cheffers I did a search for Pampered Chef one day on Facebook.... I was a bit ticked off at how many "The Pampered Chef" "fan" pages there were.... and at how many people had their websites listed! It's a bit frustrating to see how many people just don't seem to care that listing our websites on the internet is a clear violation of our contract with The Pampered Chef.....

07-06-2009, 07:06 AM	#13
raebates Location: Denver, IN Posts: 14,220 Best Show: $1,779 Experience: 5 # of Shows: 350 My Mood:	Re: Attn Facebooking Cheffers It's frustrating, Celeste. I believe that following the rules (whether you agree with them or not) is a sign of a responsible, ethical businessperson.

07-06-2009, 07:46 AM	#15
chef131doreen Location: North Haven Ct. Posts: 805 Best Show: 5400. Experience: 8 # of Shows: 640 My Mood:	Re: Attn Facebooking Cheffers OMG I can not believe what I just saw........ i went on facebook and pout in the search PAMPEREDCHEF so many consutlants with there info right ther to see their website , how the people can contact them , how they van have a party There are even Directors doing it SHAME on them . I THINK WE ALL HERE SHOULD CALL H.0 TODAY AND REPORT THIS .This is not fair to all of us that are working very hard for all of our sale Are you all with me I am calling as soon as the open and you bet i will tell them at National Confrence when i get there

07-06-2009, 07:15 AM	#16
beckyjsmith Location: Tennessee Posts: 140 Best Show: Experience: 1 # of Shows: 154	Re: Attn Facebooking Cheffers Honestly I don't think that someone having their website or info posted on fb is going to cost me any business. I can't imagine that most people go to fb looking for a PC consultant. As long as I am on the phone and on top of my business, I don't really worry about what other people are doing. They have to live with their ethical violations. And no, I don't have my info posted on fb. Of the friends I have on there, they all know I am with PC anyway. Just my two cents...

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raebates Location: Denver, IN Posts: 14,220 Best Show: $1,779 Experience: 5 # of Shows: 350 My Mood:	Re: Attn Facebooking Cheffers Part of the problem as I understand it is the way search engines work. My friend who looked for my website (and didn't find it) by googling my name and Pampered Chef found a few of my postings here at CS. If someone has their website listed online, doing a search of PC can bring them up. This can be a financial advantage. It also opens a can of worms for the HO, since they have no control over what I say on those sites. I don't find the rules all that restrictive. I can tell people what I do without mentioning the name. If they ask, I can send them information in a private message. The rules are pretty specific. No posting of your website online and no listing of yourself as a PC consultant on social sites. Period. It's no surprise to me that people break the rules. Have you tried driving the posted speed limit on a highway lately?

07-06-2009, 11:38 AM	#20
chef131doreen Location: North Haven Ct. Posts: 805 Best Show: 5400. Experience: 8 # of Shows: 640 My Mood:	Re: Attn Facebooking Cheffers I agree with you the rules are right there on line for anyone of us to read what i said I found is right on fb search pamperedchef and you will find all the websits people post this is on the rules "'The second exception pertains to personal electronic communications. You may continue to include your Personal Web Site address as part of your contact information or signature on e-invitations, any e-mails that are currently available through your Personal Web Site and your personal e-mails to your customers. These communications may link to your Personal Web Site. This also includes any electronic mail pieces that may be developed by our licensed merchandise vendor. The ban on linking also prohibits the following: • Listing or linking your Personal Web Site in Internet directories or search engines, such as Google or Yahoo. • Purchasing or using a separate domain name to re-direct visitors to your Personal Web Site. • Linking to Consultant’s Corner from any Web site. • Linking to The Pampered Chef® corporate Web site from any Web site. It is your sole responsibility to ensure that your Personal Web Site is not linked to any other Web site that violates these policies."