Morning Update, November 7, 2007

The_Kitchen_Guy · 11-07-2007, 05:33 AM

With each passing day, when there is nothing new to report, typing the "Morning Update" title includes stopping and having to think of the date. It is hard to believe that we are one week into November - over four months since Paige disappeared - with nothing to tell or show for the time.

We're all praying for resolution, aren't we?

If this case has done nothing else for us, it has made us painfully more aware of the Paige Birgfelds, Stacy Petersons and Natalee Halloways of the world, and there are far too many stories like these.

Do you check ScaredMonkeys.com or Zoltan Zion periodically? Please do. We all need to be more aware of what's out there, who's out there, and what is happening to innocent victims.

That's it, it's all we know and the soapbox mode is OFF, as of 5:30 AM EST.

baychef · 11-07-2007, 07:19 AM

A soapbox we all need to be on with you! Thanks, KG!

chefkristin · 11-07-2007, 07:52 AM

bumping...

ChefBeckyD · 11-07-2007, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Kitchen_Guy

With each passing day, when there is nothing new to report, typing the "Morning Update" title includes stopping and having to think of the date. It is hard to believe that we are one week into November - over four months since Paige disappeared - with nothing to tell or show for the time.

We're all praying for resolution, aren't we?

If this case has done nothing else for us, it has made us painfully more aware of the Paige Birgfelds, Stacy Petersons and Natalee Halloways of the world, and there are far too many stories like these.

Do you check ScaredMonkeys.com or Zoltan Zion periodically? Please do. We all need to be more aware of what's out there, who's out there, and what is happening to innocent victims.

That's it, it's all we know and the soapbox mode is OFF, as of 5:30 AM EST.

I was just thinking of that this morning. There was a news piece about seaching for a young mom who is missing - and I thought, for every one of these we hear about, there are so many more that never make the national news. Thanks for the reminder, and posting the sites dedicated to finding those missing.
You are a good man KG.

The_Kitchen_Guy · 11-07-2007, 12:12 PM

Thank you, Becky, because other than a few diehards, it seems like most everyone else up here has moved on. The fact that these update threads slide very far down page one before someone bumps them is indicative of how blasé some have become to Paige's case.

I marvel at the dedication of people like Grandé, who hasn't moved on from Paige's case as much as he is overloaded with similar cases, and his associates. My heart goes out to the victims and the victim families that are listed on these various missing websites:

Zoltan Zion where Carpe Noctem and Grandé reside.

ScaredMonkeys.Com

Texas EquuSearch - The Texas EquuSearch Mounted Search and Recovery Team was started in August, 2000 with the purpose to provide Volunteer Horse Mounted Search and Recovery for Lost and Missing persons.

I did a search (what an ironic term) for "missing persons wisconsin" and found a state website listing missing persons. I was shocked - there are 1,150 people missing in Wisconsin alone. Also interesting - of the adults (over 18) missing, the balance between male/female is surprisingly equal, with 129 men missing and 124 women missing.

You can do a similar lookup for your own state, but beware, some of the net search results will be commercial web squatters or other sites not related to missing persons at all.

heat123 · 11-07-2007, 12:40 PM

I do check and appreciate the updates dailey, even if I don't post comments doesn't mean I am not thinking and praying for Paige and her family.

DebbieJ · 11-07-2007, 01:02 PM

Thanks, KG.

The_Kitchen_Guy · 11-07-2007, 01:07 PM

Just to clarify my post, my intent is to not belittle our group, I'm simply stating an observation. As a society, we have a short attention span.

News is thrown at us is in sound bites. Advertisers are pounding us with 10 second spots. (As an example, have you seen the Chevrolet 10 second spot of the jogger running into the car? It is usually in the beginning of a commercial package. At, or near the end of, the package, we see another 10 second spot where the jogger gets up and runs into the same car. Chevrolet knows we wouldn't pay attention to the spot if it ran as a continuous 30 second story.)

We are used to turmoil and mysteries being wrapped up in 42 minutes. (The actual length of a one-hour television drama.) We see crime labs process complex research in minutes, instead of the weeks it takes in real life. In the NBC franchise of Law & Order, crimes are solved in 21 minutes and the crook is convicted in another 21 minutes.

Reality is far different, a perception the media does nothing to correct. We have come to expect crimes to be solved immediately. We expect war actions to be over in days, We think that if we just shake hands with out enemies, they'll suddenly love us instead of hate us. We think that if we catch a crook and release him on bail that he'll come back, and if we put him on probation, he won't go out and repeat. After all, we see it on television every night.

We've become naive. We're becoming pretty dumb.

tpchefrebecca · 11-07-2007, 07:22 PM

bumping...thanks KG!

baychef · 11-07-2007, 09:25 PM

I am not a teacher, but just an observer of life. I remember the concern that we were going to create a society with short attention spans because of the fast pace of children's shows such as Seasame Street. Only an example...I love the show.
We have microwaves, computers with high speed, cell phones (love the blue tooth people that walk through the stores looking as if they are having endless conversations about nothing to themselves). Everyone should have the pleasure of re-winding cassette tapes and slow VCR tapes!!
Then there was a real effort being made about 10 years ago to nuture the fragile self esteem. Everyone got a prize...even those that put zero effort towards something!
I find myself that it can be too easy to slip into the "instant results" frame of mind. Also, in our business, I see many people expecting fast successful results with little effort. If it doesn't fall in our lap effortlessly, then why should we stick with it?
I could babble on, but I will instantly shut up!!!

climbercanoe3 · 11-07-2007, 10:37 PM

I find the same thing is true with the toys kids have nowadays.
Trampolines in the back yard, so noone has to wait anymore. They allow 3-8 people on at a time, even if it is dangerous. The blow up water slides and moonwalks are the same. The kids are all being taught that nothing is good enough to wait for. If they are not being "taught" it, they are certainly learning to live that way.
I could go on and on too!

11-07-2007, 05:33 AM	#1
The_Kitchen_Guy Location: Sentenced to life in the punitentiary Posts: 12,456 Best Show: Enough Experience: 6 # of Shows: My Mood:	Morning Update, November 7, 2007 With each passing day, when there is nothing new to report, typing the "Morning Update" title includes stopping and having to think of the date. It is hard to believe that we are one week into November - over four months since Paige disappeared - with nothing to tell or show for the time. We're all praying for resolution, aren't we? If this case has done nothing else for us, it has made us painfully more aware of the Paige Birgfelds, Stacy Petersons and Natalee Halloways of the world, and there are far too many stories like these. Do you check ScaredMonkeys.com or Zoltan Zion periodically? Please do. We all need to be more aware of what's out there, who's out there, and what is happening to innocent victims. That's it, it's all we know and the soapbox mode is OFF, as of 5:30 AM EST.

11-07-2007, 12:12 PM	#5
The_Kitchen_Guy Location: Sentenced to life in the punitentiary Posts: 12,456 Best Show: Enough Experience: 6 # of Shows: My Mood:	Thank you, Becky, because other than a few diehards, it seems like most everyone else up here has moved on. The fact that these update threads slide very far down page one before someone bumps them is indicative of how blasé some have become to Paige's case. I marvel at the dedication of people like Grandé, who hasn't moved on from Paige's case as much as he is overloaded with similar cases, and his associates. My heart goes out to the victims and the victim families that are listed on these various missing websites: Zoltan Zion where Carpe Noctem and Grandé reside. ScaredMonkeys.Com Texas EquuSearch - The Texas EquuSearch Mounted Search and Recovery Team was started in August, 2000 with the purpose to provide Volunteer Horse Mounted Search and Recovery for Lost and Missing persons. I did a search (what an ironic term) for "missing persons wisconsin" and found a state website listing missing persons. I was shocked - there are 1,150 people missing in Wisconsin alone. Also interesting - of the adults (over 18) missing, the balance between male/female is surprisingly equal, with 129 men missing and 124 women missing. You can do a similar lookup for your own state, but beware, some of the net search results will be commercial web squatters or other sites not related to missing persons at all. Last edited by The_Kitchen_Guy; 11-07-2007 at 12:15 PM.

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11-07-2007, 07:19 AM	#2
baychef Location: In a constant state of turmoil Posts: 2,516 Best Show: $2807 Experience: 8 # of Shows: 6-8 My Mood:	A soapbox we all need to be on with you! Thanks, KG!

11-07-2007, 07:52 AM	#3
chefkristin Location: MA Posts: 2,993 Best Show: 1800 Experience: 2 # of Shows:	bumping...

11-07-2007, 12:40 PM	#6
heat123 Location: La Mesa ~CA Posts: 5,818 Best Show: $1703 Experience: 3 # of Shows: 120+ My Mood:	I do check and appreciate the updates dailey, even if I don't post comments doesn't mean I am not thinking and praying for Paige and her family.

11-07-2007, 01:02 PM	#7
DebbieJ Location: The rolling plains of suburban Chicago Posts: 8,152 Best Show: 2760 Experience: 3 # of Shows: 250 My Mood:	Thanks, KG.

11-07-2007, 01:07 PM	#8
The_Kitchen_Guy Location: Sentenced to life in the punitentiary Posts: 12,456 Best Show: Enough Experience: 6 # of Shows: My Mood:	Just to clarify my post, my intent is to not belittle our group, I'm simply stating an observation. As a society, we have a short attention span. News is thrown at us is in sound bites. Advertisers are pounding us with 10 second spots. (As an example, have you seen the Chevrolet 10 second spot of the jogger running into the car? It is usually in the beginning of a commercial package. At, or near the end of, the package, we see another 10 second spot where the jogger gets up and runs into the same car. Chevrolet knows we wouldn't pay attention to the spot if it ran as a continuous 30 second story.) We are used to turmoil and mysteries being wrapped up in 42 minutes. (The actual length of a one-hour television drama.) We see crime labs process complex research in minutes, instead of the weeks it takes in real life. In the NBC franchise of Law & Order, crimes are solved in 21 minutes and the crook is convicted in another 21 minutes. Reality is far different, a perception the media does nothing to correct. We have come to expect crimes to be solved immediately. We expect war actions to be over in days, We think that if we just shake hands with out enemies, they'll suddenly love us instead of hate us. We think that if we catch a crook and release him on bail that he'll come back, and if we put him on probation, he won't go out and repeat. After all, we see it on television every night. We've become naive. We're becoming pretty dumb.

11-07-2007, 07:22 PM	#9
tpchefrebecca Location: Portland, OR Posts: 749 Best Show: 1034 Experience: 3 # of Shows: 140	bumping...thanks KG!

11-07-2007, 09:25 PM	#10
baychef Location: In a constant state of turmoil Posts: 2,516 Best Show: $2807 Experience: 8 # of Shows: 6-8 My Mood:	I am not a teacher, but just an observer of life. I remember the concern that we were going to create a society with short attention spans because of the fast pace of children's shows such as Seasame Street. Only an example...I love the show. We have microwaves, computers with high speed, cell phones (love the blue tooth people that walk through the stores looking as if they are having endless conversations about nothing to themselves). Everyone should have the pleasure of re-winding cassette tapes and slow VCR tapes!! Then there was a real effort being made about 10 years ago to nuture the fragile self esteem. Everyone got a prize...even those that put zero effort towards something! I find myself that it can be too easy to slip into the "instant results" frame of mind. Also, in our business, I see many people expecting fast successful results with little effort. If it doesn't fall in our lap effortlessly, then why should we stick with it? I could babble on, but I will instantly shut up!!!

11-07-2007, 10:37 PM	#11
climbercanoe3 Location: MA Posts: 419 Best Show: Experience: 9m # of Shows: 13	I find the same thing is true with the toys kids have nowadays. Trampolines in the back yard, so noone has to wait anymore. They allow 3-8 people on at a time, even if it is dangerous. The blow up water slides and moonwalks are the same. The kids are all being taught that nothing is good enough to wait for. If they are not being "taught" it, they are certainly learning to live that way. I could go on and on too!